I sure did, Telmo. Scroll to the bottom and you shall view my last, number
26th, the last one. This kind of thing is interesting to me. I tend toward the
materialist stuff since it seems to have potential. The mentalist stuff seems
unreliable because people who have NDE's or trances have not come back with
information.
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On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 9:19 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
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Hi Telmo,
I have tried the Other Side stuff for a bit, and found it wanting.
Not so surprising... The topic is a string attractor for quacks, for sure.
Steinhart, said he had some experiences but decided they were not that
significant to himself. He is more buzzed, he said, but the beauty of
mathematics, emotionally. Here is a crowd funded 3D augmented reality game, due
out next year, called Night Terrors, so much for the paranormal, yes? We maybe,
could, have the paranormal adventure any time we choose.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/01/survival-horror-augmented-reality-game-night-terrors-maps-your-house
Wow, this is a brilliant/terrifying idea!
I cross-posted a message to Ben Goetzel on his "Multiverse" website, as
well as on Guilio Prisco's Turing-Church website sight concerning Goetzel's
non-response, to my question to him, about afterlife ideas, if any? He seemed
to touch on this in a recent article, as well as his 2006, The Hidden Pattern,
which I had downloaded, a couple of months ago. Any data or opinion on
Goetzel's view on all this?
Have you seen this?
http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.de/2015/03/paranormal-phenomena-nonlocal-mind-and.html
Telmo.
Mitch
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Sent: Sun, May 3, 2015 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!
Hi spudboy,
I follow Ben Goetzel and have some of the books he recommends on the topic on
my to-read list.
I remain agnostic on this stuff, and just try to consider the simplest
explanation, even if it's boring. In the case of this story, this sounds a lot
like the event was staged by some nice person who cares about the bride. This
doesn't mean that is the correct explanation, of course.
What I am more curious about are replicable laboratory experiments. Some
people, like Goetzel, are claiming that results with statistical significance
are known. Maybe this is a nice opportunity for amateur science, because
dealing with this topics would still career suicide for many people -- even if
to find negative results.
Of course believing in the supernatural is absurd -- what does that even mean?
If, for example, ghosts were real, then this would just mean that current
scientific theories are incomplete or wrong.
Cheers,
Telmo.
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:09 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
If you know of Ben Goetzel, and Damien Broderick, as well as
Eric Steinhart, they have claimed Psi experiences, or spiritual experiences,
but are split on the true significance? At the end of the day, it either works
for us, or it doesn't.
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Sent: Sun, May 3, 2015 7:03 am
Subject: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!
Michael Shermer is the publisher of "Skeptic" magazine, which I used to
subscribe to - but I could only take so many debunkings, lectures on science,
and so on, and eventually I cancelled the sub, reasonably well convinced that I
had by now obtained all the wherewithal I was ever going to need to give 123
reasons to explain any apparently supernatural event...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/anomalous-events-that-can-shake-one-s-skepticism-to-the-core/
It's also a rather nice story.
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