> On 3 Jun 2015, at 3:47 am, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 02-Jun-2015, at 10:23 pm, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 02 Jun 2015, at 04:18, Samiya Illias wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 30-May-2015, at 6:38 pm, spudboy100 via Everything List 
>>>>> <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is what stopped Islamic science of 900 years ago. Insh Allah, 
>>>>> Ma'shallah! God wills, as god wills! This solves everything, so why study 
>>>>> things further. Allah is in control of it all. All is me'toub! Fated by 
>>>>> Allah. So studying how photosynthesis works, or what the moon is made 
>>>>> from. The moon is made of stone and created by Allah-so what more do we 
>>>>> need to know. All is in Allah's hands, and He is the best judge to know!
>>>> And thus Muslim civilisation suffered the consequence of not heeding to 
>>>> the repeated advise in the Quran to contemplate on nature and use 
>>>> intelligence. 
>>> Just as contemplation and use of intelligence is advised in the Quran, so 
>>> also is it advised to say 'In Sha Allah'. I understand the 'In Sha Allah' 
>>> [if God wills] and 'Ma Sha Allah' [as God willed] as a reminder to keep us 
>>> mindful of the Uncertainty Principle, in that it applies not only to the 
>>> quantum level, but cascades on to everything. Saying 'In Sha Allah' and 'Ma 
>>> Sha Allah' reminds us that no matter how earnestly we resolve to do 
>>> something or how hard we tried, the decision is always with Allah. In this 
>>> temporal realm, we can only 'choose' to try to do or not do something, 
>>> however whether we are able to do it or not, and the outcome of our 
>>> efforts, is determined and decreed by God.
>> 
>> Imagine you convince everybody of this. Then you will convince also the 
>> percentage of human having sadical pulse (for a reason or another). So there 
>> is a risk that those people believing everything is decreed by God will 
>> interpret their sadical pulse as God anger and willingfulness to punish. 
> 
> Regarding the terrible trial of the bani Israel (children of Prophet Jacob), 
> it is mentioned in the Quran: 
> Holy Quran 7:141
> ------------------
> وَإِذْ أَنْجَيْنَاكُمْ مِنْ آلِ فِرْعَوْنَ يَسُومُونَكُمْ سُوءَ الْعَذَابِ ۖ 
> يُقَتِّلُونَ أَبْنَاءَكُمْ وَيَسْتَحْيُونَ نِسَاءَكُمْ ۚ وَفِي ذَٰلِكُمْ 
> بَلَاءٌ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ عَظِيمٌ
> 
> And [recall, O Children of Israel], when We saved you from the people of 
> Pharaoh, [who were] afflicting you with the worst torment - killing your sons 
> and keeping your women alive. And in that was a great trial from your Lord. 

You decide what you think are good and just acts, and then try to find evidence 
that God measures up to your moral standards. But if you were consistent you 
would just say that no matter who God causes to suffer through action or 
omission, that's fine because he's God

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