Jumping to conclusions, Observation mitigates randomness. This is what Everett has taught. Evolve an observer, constrain randomness and set order to the universe(s). According to Everett, the observer doesn't control the universe, but triggers a response (random?). Physicist Larry Krauss once, joked, that we shouldn't observe too deeply at the limits of the Hubble Volume, to avoid causing a cosmic collapse.
-----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2015 5:24 am Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On 27 Jun 2015, at 03:30, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: But surely phenomena in quantum physics and Conways Life are random, but computable? Being computable, they are not random, although they can be chaotic and can look random (and pass some statistical test for it), but are not random in the strong sense of the word. QM is computable, unless you introduce a non computable hamiltonian, but this is not known in Nature (nor even easy to describe how that could been detected). The non computability appering in observation is due to a special kind of FPI (accepting Everett). Bruno Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: John Clark < johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list < everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2015 03:34 PM Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On Thu, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > What part of physics is not computable? Randomness. And possibly the singularity at the center of a Black Hole too, but we won't know that for certain until we figure out if space and time is quantized or not. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.