On 10/6/2015 10:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It's not clear to me who is arguing for what. Stathis may think that consciousness is independent of it's physical substrate, but I don't see that he's arguing that here. He's arguing that there can be more that one instance of "the same" consciousness.

Yes, like for example when you are duplicated at W and M, but still in the box, before opening the box. There are two instantiation of the same consciousness. From the 1p view, the person can be consistently said to be unique, at both place at once. Once she opens the door, she get the bit of information which differentiate her from her doppelganger.

But this is inconsistent with QM. Your view of conscious thoughts as instantiated by computation implicitly assumes deterministic, classical evolution of the brain, so that two identical brains with identical perceptual inputs will have identical thought sequences, in analogy to two computers running the same program. As the computations are instantiated in arithmetic they are necessarily a unity, as there can be only a single number 2. But QM says that the brains will very quickly (microseconds) diverge. So if duplication were possible this could provide a test of your theory - do the duplicate's thoughts diverge even before the door is opened. Of course duplication of brains or people is not possible - but duplication of computers is. Computers are deliberately designed to act deterministically; we want them to instantiate arithmetic, not QM. Yet they do instantiate QM and although they will not diverge quickly, they too will diverge.

Brent

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