On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9 August 2016 at 03:27, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> >> >> And as I've explained several times MWI does NOT have the same problem. >> Before *you* perform the 2 slit experiment it would NOT be gibberish to >> ask* you* "After the experiment what do *you* expect to see?", because >> both before and after the experiment the meaning of the personal pronoun " >> *you*" is crystal clear unique and unambiguous, "*you*" is the only >> chunk of matter in the observable universe that behaves in a >> Telmomenezesian way. It's entirely different with a duplicating machine, >> "What one and only one city will *you* see after *you* are duplicated?" >> is just words with a question mark at the end and is not a question >> because after "*you*" is duplicated there would be 2 chunks of matter >> >> that behaves in a Telmomenezesian way >> . >> And because things are stated so clearly >> >> after it's all over we can check and see if the prediction *you* made >> about *you* turned out to be correct or not; it might have been right >> and it might have been wrong but it wasn't gibberish. > > > > > The distinction you insist on seems arbitrary. > It is. The definitions given to words are always arbitrary, but the important thing is they not be contradictory. The definition I have given to the personal pronoun "you" is specific and uncontradictory, Bruno's definition is unspecific and contradictory. > > > Whether the two versions of you can meet or not, there are still two > versions of you. > I f the laws of physics prevent them from meeting then no experiment can be performed on them, not even a thought experiment. The personal pronoun "you" is clearly and rigidly defined as any chunk of matter in the observable universe that behaves in a Stathispapaioannouian way, so MWI or no MWI if people duplicating machines are not around then only one chunk of matter fits that description and the personal pronoun "you" can be freely used to describe a experimental setup with no fear of ambiguity or logical contradiction. But anybody who talks about duplicating machines and also about "you" quite literally doesn't know what (or who) he's talking about. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
