On 8/17/2018 2:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Aug 2018, at 20:50, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 8/16/2018 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Aug 2018, at 21:33, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 8/15/2018 2:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
And you have not recovered the quantitative aspect of the quantum structure,
I did at the propositional level, which is enough to have the quantum logic. It
is richer than the quantum logic of the physicians, so this predicts new things.
What are they?
The consequence of the Löb’s formula translated in the quantum
logical terms. Those are long and ugly formula, still beyond the
reach of my (old) theorem prover.
So they are not testable.
?
Some are testable and tested, and some are not *yet* derived, and thus
not tested, but they are testable of course. Not sure how you arrive
at your conclusion.
because you have not defined a measure on the computations of the UD.
Not yet, but I am willing to hear some constructive suggestion to progress.
Then how can you claim to have recovered quantum mechanics if you
cannot even define a probability amplitude that is linear?
Because I have recovered enough to classify those logics as quantum
logic.
That's a far cry from quantum mechanics.
But the UDA shows that if we don’t get quantum mechanics, it has to be
false, or mechanism is false. The whole point is that we can test this.
The goal is to get a coherent picture in the computationalist frame.
Physicalism is *already* refuted.
No. It is only your version of physicalism that is refuted. The
assumption that what is physical cannot account for what is mental
because the mental is substrate independent and therefore is independent
of all substrate. The last doesn't follow.
Brent
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