As many democrats deride, most of the Libertarians are just republicans who don't want to pay taxes. I concur with this assessment and also understand why, because much of the democratic policies only seek to reward their own voting base at the expense of the rest of the country. What is often quoted from John Adams, "We are a nation of laws, not men", I'd differ with that statement and say, we are a nation governed by the rule of lawyers who become politicians. To win, these lawyers take campaign donations from the richest people. https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/04/16/The-US-is-not-a-democracy-but-an-oligarchy-study-concludes/2761397680051/ On Abortion itself, for a bunch of science fans we ain't too smart in innovation. At this point, we could do fetus transfer to an incubator, instead of resolving things by either religion or ideology, we go technology. Make abortion into something else. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-50056405 https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jun/27/parents-can-look-foetus-real-time-artificial-wombs-future https://thenextweb.com/news/ethereum-founder-vitalik-buterin-wants-synthetic-wombs
I mean Planned Parenthood could switch biz models and perform life saving to adoption. If not adoption, then, yeah, foster homes, or yeah, even orphanages. Seems a better path for humanity than sticking to abortion, ethically speaking. On changing the way election wins get decided, cuts to the question, are we even a nation state anymore, because name one thing we agree on? If not John, why should we obey your guys ideology of open borders, with the immigrants of course being future (D) party voters, whether legal or not? This is a thing with the (D) party-https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/n-y-supreme-court-strikes-down-nyc-law-granting-voting-rights-to-noncitizen-residents/ Got struck down by Judges again. Which cuts to your lament on elections and judges and... -----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2022 7:55 am Subject: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College So, the Supreme Court decided the constitution, which was written more than a century before women had the right to vote, does NOT give the federal government the power to grant women autonomy over their own bodies, BUT, they claim, the constitution DOES guarantee state governments have the power to deny individual women that right that they'd had for the last 50 years. In their dissenting court decision Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan wrote: "Never before had the court rescinded an individual right and left it up to the states whether to respect what had once been anchored in the Constitution. After today young women will come of age with fewer rights than their mothers and grandmothers had. The majority’s refusal even to consider the life-altering consequences of reversing Roe and Casey is a stunning indictment of its decision. The majority has overruled Roe and Casey for one and only one reason: because it has always despised them, and now it has the votes to discard them. The majority thereby substitutes a rule by judges for the rule of law.” It's very hard to believe anybody who calls himself a "libertarian" would agree with this court decision, but the fact is many, perhaps most, do. And that illustrates why I no longer feel comfortable calling myself a libertarian. But bad as it is, considering our screwy Electoral College system a crazy decision like this is not the slightest bit surprising. Donald Trump appointed 3 of the 6 who made this decision and all 6 were appointed by Anti-democratic presidents who ran on political party platforms that vowed they would appoint judges that would overturn Roe versus Wade. And 6 of the 9 judges on the Supreme Court were appointed by Anti-democratic presidents even though Democrats won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections. In addition to this most recent court decision we can thank the Electoral College for George W. Bush, the Iraq War, phantom "weapons of mass destruction", and thousands of American war dead. We can also thank the Electoral College for Donald Trump, a stunningly inept Covid response, and hundreds of thousands of unnecessary American deaths. And oh I almost forgot, we can also thank the Electoral College for a failed coup d'état attempt. As I said, none of this is surprising, but what is surprising is that those six Anti-democratic judges still called themselves "conservatives". I always thought the general definition of being "conservative " meant you wanted to keep doing things pretty much the same way things have always been done, but those six Anti-democratic judges decreed there will be a radical change in the way we've dealt with abortions for the last half century and strongly hinted they may criminalize homosexuality and even birth control in the near future. And yet in spite of all this many, perhaps most, who call themselves "libertarians" are still going to vote for Trump in 2014. Go figure. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis oo7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2XUtt5OoGUP7nnnj_T%2B1oSWEZuSu1RZHy2B--f7k5tSQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/314852571.84008.1656548794972%40mail.yahoo.com.