On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 2:31:20 PM UTC-5 medinuclear wrote: > general...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: The > Supreme Court and the Electoral College > > > > [*Olaf Stapledon*] *quoted below.* > > ” The fictitious deities of all races in all worlds once more crowded > themselves upon me,…” > > *[Philip Benjamin]* > > This is off the thread here. However*, *I will try to retain the > thought*. *Prof Olaf is fundamentally wrong here and logically > inconsistent. How can fictitious deities *really *do anything at all? >
Deities operate as brain patterns, memes and thought games. There is no reason to think God, Allah or Jesus Christ exist outside of us, but we might say that the function as thought-games in the brain and by that way affect behavior. LC [image: bizarro god lives here.jpg] > Human life ( for that matter any life) is more than a bunch of fundamental > particles. That is why even unreal and fictitious deities occupy human > minds! How could any race or individual intrinsically come up with any > fictitious notions of a friendly or hostile deity? Why can’t any mind be > absolutely blank of any such thinking? He looks like endorsing one of those > Israeli/Jewish women of Jeremiah’s days who said: ” As for the word that > thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto > thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goes forth out of our own > mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink > offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and > our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for > then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil”. > > The word pagan got into Queen’s English not by the KJV, instead > heathen is used by KJV for anything outside the domain of *Adonai > (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural).* See *Joshua 24:2. *Even > Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor had one of those > deities.They were all heathen/pagan. Regeneration from old heathenism to > new-creation in Adonai is what Apostolic or Augustinian transformation is > all about. Like it or not, That, not *Prof.* *Olaf Stapledon,* is what > distinguished the nonconformist West in general from the rest of the world > which conformed to various deities of various races, peoples and > nations—including Jungian sorceries, occultism of Monk Rasputin, Madame > Blavatsky etc. > > *Philip Benjamin* > > * From:* 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online < > general...@googlegroups.com> S*ubject:* RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: > The Supreme Court and the Electoral College > > You know Philip I think it is rather difficult not to love the > earth, but it is possible to love the earth and trust the God who created > it and will destroy it. …. There is one writer who seemed to sum up this > form of duality – Olaf Stapledon, a science fiction writer and University > lecturer: Two related quotes …… The fictitious deities of all races in all > worlds once more crowded themselves upon me, symbols of majesty and > tenderness, of ruthless power, of blind creativity and of all seeing > wisdom. And though their images were but the fantasies of created minds, it > seemed to me that one and all did indeed embody some true features of the > Star Maker's impact. ........................................... > > Suddenly it was clear to me that virtue in the Creator is not the same as > virtue in the Creation. For the Creator if he should love his creation > would be loving only a part of himself, but the creation praising the > creator praises an infinity beyond himself. The virtue of the creation was > to love and to worship. The virtue of the Creator was to create and to be > infinite, the unrealisable and incomprehensible goal of worshipping > creatures. …….. It is enough to have been created, to have embodied for a > moment the infinite and tumultuously creative spirit …. to have been the > rough sketch for some perfected creation. > Professor Stapledon was much admired in his day …. “*Stapledon was > hostile to religious institutions, but not to religious yearnings*”. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Philip Benjamin" <medin...@hotmail.com> > To: "general...@googlegroups.com" <general...@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, 10 Jul, 22 At 19:26 > Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: The Supreme Court and the > Electoral College > > *John Clark]* > > “´.... Give me an example of something, anything, that is NOT pagan…. “. > > *[Philip Benjamin] * > > This is a reasonable question, though the problem was defined for over > over 20 years wherever that was allowed, though the WAMP (often Marxists) > despotically forbids. > > WAMP is generally speaking a self-description, if anybody wants to join, > most welcome!! The name “John” meaning ”Jah (YHWH) is gracious” is not of > pagan origin, that does not necessarily mean that anybody with that name is > not a Gaia centered conformist. Pagan comes from Pan-Gaia-n, i.e. earth > centered, earth worshippers, by extension the doctrinaire environmentalists > and the pseudo-climatologists. > > A “transformed consciousness” is what the Prophet describes as: “And I > will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I > will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of > flesh”. *Ezekiel 36:26. *Earth-centeredness is unavoidable for all > earthlings, “none good” (*Psalm 14:3; Romans 3:12; Luke 18:19*) even in > an “awakened consciousness”, or Augustinian transformation (“*Two Great > Awakenings* for example”). Rabbi Saul of Tarsus put it this way > expressing his great frustration after transformation on the Damascus road: > *Romans > 7:24*. “ O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of > this death”? > > Only the products (Marxists) of WAMP-the-Ingrate can claim to be “good”!! > For science today Ezekiel’s “new heart” or the “inner man” of the > Apostles refers to the “dark matter body” with its chemistry vis-à-ˈvis its > “light matter twin” cocreated at conception. > > *Philip Benjamin * > > *Notes:* > > *Jeremiah 17:9*.“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately > wicked: who can know it?” > > *Romans chs. 1—3*. Total corruption of mankind*Mark 7: 21*. “For from > within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, > theft, murder, adultery, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, > wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, > foolishness:” > > *Ezekiel 36:26*. “And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I > will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh > and give you a heart of flesh”. > > *From:* everyth...@googlegroups.com everyth...@googlegroups.com *On > Behalf Of *John Clark > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 8:58 AM > > *To:* 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List everyth...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 9:38 AM Philip Benjamin <medin...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > *> **Paganism with un-awakened consciousness in diverse forms rules about > 90% of the globe including today’s Europe and America—atheism, humanism, > animism, polytheism, pantheism, cabalism, Marxism, Socialism, Fascism, > Satanism, Statism, Collective Capitalism, Neo-Liberalism, > anti-individualism, New Age, Identity Politics, etc. One has to cut off > from reality not to mention paganism in describing the present state of > human minds.* > > “Is Christianity paganism, if not why not, and if it is then give me an > example of something, anything, that is* NOT* pagan. Saying everything is > pagan is equivalent to saying nothing is pagan because meaning needs > contrast” John Clark. > > *From:* 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online < > general...@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 9:26 AM > *To:* general...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: The Supreme Court and the > Electoral College > > Dear Philip, > > Mr Clark's reply [he cannot be a doctor or professor surely?] is > absolutely spot on - because he has defined what a WAMP is by his own > reply!! There is > > - Sarcasm - Wow you're doing better, you were able to write 28 whole > words before you felt obligated [sic] to use the word "pagan"! > > - Abuse - but pretty soon you may be able to write an entire sentence > without using "pagan", > > - Insult - It would be science-fiction to imagine you could ever write an > entire post without using it > > - Condescension - but I'm curious, does that word have any meeting [sic] > for you other than someone who believes in a very slightly different type > of religious idiocy than the type of religious idiocy you believe in? > > - Arrogance/Ignorance And by the way, if you put a gun to my head I > couldn't tell you who or what "WAMP-the-Ingrate" is. > > This is a WAMP! An arrogant, dismissive, condescending, abusive > individual who uses sarcasm as a form of argument, as well as insult and > abuse. And yet is unable to spell or use grammatically correct English!! > *"O**bligated*" means "require or compel (someone) to undertake a legal > or moral duty". I think he *may* mean obliged and he has mis-spelt > meeting because I suspect he means 'meaning'. > > I can even add extra characteristics - they shout louder than you to get > their point heard, they rarely listen, or even if they appear to be > listening, they ignore what has been said completely or choose to > misinterpret it. If any opinion is expressed contrary to their own they > either pretend they haven't heard or have the person banned [from facebook, > from youtube, from forums ....... ] and they do all this without ever > bothering to even look for what was really said [And by the way, if you > put a gun to my head I couldn't tell you who or what "WAMP-the-Ingrate" is] > > Crumbs, do I know this person!!!! This is a WAMP!!!!! > > *You keep going Philip,* your opinion is equal to anyone else's and > considering you have never done any of these things - insult, abuse, etc - > I think you can claim a great number of house points over those that do. > And by your persistence we now have a really good example [Mr Clark] of > what a WAMP does and is!! > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Philip Benjamin" <medin...@hotmail.com> > To: "general...@googlegroups.com" <general...@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, 8 Jul, 22 At 14:39 > > Subject: [Consciousness-Online] RE: The Supreme Court and the Electoral > College > > [*Philip Benjamin*] > > Paganism with un-awakened consciousness in diverse forms rules about 90% > of the globe including today’s Europe and America—atheism, humanism, > animism, polytheism, pantheism, cabalism, Marxism, Socialism, Fascism, > Satanism, Statism, Collective Capitalism, Neo-Liberalism, > anti-individualism, New Age, Identity Politics, etc. One has to cut off > from reality not to mention paganism in describing the present state of > human minds. > > *Philip Benjamin * > > *From:* everyth...@googlegroups.com <everyth...@googlegroups.com> *On > Behalf Of *John Clark > *Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2022 1:46 PM > *To:* 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> > *Cc:* spudboy100 > *Subject:* Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 1:24 PM Philip Benjamin <medin...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > *WAMP-the-Ingrate did not and could not exist in the 1700’s! Today’s > WAMP-the-Ingrate will certainly have New York and California (two lawless > BIG Marxist mostly pagan* [...] > > Wow you're doing better, you were able to write 28 whole words before you > felt obligated to use the word "pagan"! It would be science-fiction to > imagine you could ever write an entire post without using it but pretty > soon you may be able to write an entire sentence without using "pagan", but > I'm curious, does that word have any meeting for you other than someone who > believes in a very slightly different type of religious idiocy than the > type of religious idiocy you believe in? And by the way, if you put a gun > to my head I couldn't tell you who or what "WAMP-the-Ingrate" is. > > John K Clark > > . > > -- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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