On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 7:48 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 4:20 PM Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *> If consciousness is necessary for intelligence* [...] >> > > Consciousness is the inevitable product of intelligence, it is not the > cause of intelligence. > I didn't say it was the cause, I said it is a prerequisite. You conveniently (for you but not for me) ignored and deleted my explanation in your reply. Jason And as I cannot emphasize enough, natural selection can't select for > something it can't see and it can't see consciousness, but natural > selection CAN see intelligent actions. And you know for a fact that natural > selection has managed to produce at least one conscious being and probably > mini billions of them. > Don't you understand how those two facts are telling you something that is > philosophically important? > > >> > *If on the other hand, consciousness is just a useless byproduct, then >> it could (logically if not nomologically) be eliminated without affecting >> intelligent.* >> > > That would not be possible if it's a brute fact that consciousness is the > way data feels when it is being processed. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1i%2BParGqA%2Bcy%3D-HpirKE%3DX_Y58UEgeCy4-ORRbOfH3Mw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1i%2BParGqA%2Bcy%3D-HpirKE%3DX_Y58UEgeCy4-ORRbOfH3Mw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUgB6uYufPQFJLZaSOw8egoOxfMKOrqGdDp-PUMK9SruJw%40mail.gmail.com.