On 7/8/2024 11:12 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 10:29 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:28 PM Brent Meeker
<meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
/>I thought it was obvious that foresight requires
consciousness. It requires the ability of think in terms of
future scenarios/
The keyword in the above is "think". Foresight means using logic
to predict, given current starting conditions, what the future
will likely be, and determining how a change in the initial
conditions will likely affect the future. And to do any of that
requires intelligence. Both Large Language Models and picture to
video AI programs have demonstrated that they have foresight ; if
you ask them what will happen if you cut the string holding down a
helium balloon they will tell you it will flow away, but if you
add that the instant string is cut an Olympic high jumper will
make a grab for the dangling string they will tell you what will
likely happen then too. So yes, foresight does imply consciousness
because foresight demands intelligence and consciousness is the
inevitable byproduct of intelligence.
Consciousness is a prerequisite of intelligence. One can be conscious
without being intelligent, but one cannot be intelligent without being
conscious.
Someone with locked-in syndrome can do nothing, and can exhibit no
intelligent behavior. They have no measurable intelligence. Yet they
are conscious. You need to have perceptions (of the environment, or
the current situation) in order to act intelligently. It is in having
perceptions that consciousness appears. So consciousness is not a
byproduct of, but an integral and necessary requirement for
intelligent action.
And not necessarily a high-level language based consiousness. Paramecia
act intelligently based on perception of chemical gradients. So one
would say they are conscious of said gradients.
Brent
Jason
/> in which you are an actor/
Obviously any intelligence will have to take its own actions in
account to determine what the likely future will be. After a LLM
gives you an answer to a question, based on that answer I'll bet
an AI will be able to make a pretty good guess what your next
question to it will be.
John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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