On 11/4/2024 9:47 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 10:38:33 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote:
On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 10:27:24 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote:
On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 8:49:17 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker
wrote:
How can you know they were identical sets of incident
electrons, if they
had no definite state.
Brent
*You could ask the same question about the usual SG
experiment. I suppose if the electrons*
*were obtained from the same source, there would be no reason
for distinguishing them. AG *
*Can't we assume the electrons which I think are identical, all
have the same wf indicated at the*
*beginning of this thread? What other wf could be assumed? AG *
*
*
*On an unrelated issue, I recall your mention that wrt the S. Cat
thought experiment, there is no*
*operator which has Alive and Dead as eigenvalues. IMO, this implies
that the S. Cat thought*
*experiment just doesn't fit into any _quantum_ thought experiment. I
then realized that the P *
*operator for momentum must have a real value for its eigenvalues
since it's Hermitian, BUT*
*how can a real value represent momentum, which is a vector? TY, AG*
*The eigenvector would be momentum.
Brent
*
On 11/4/2024 6:03 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
> When I started this thread, I gave an example of two
experiments with
> an SG apparatus, one situated horizontally and another
at a 30 degree
> angle from the horizontal. Since they produce different
UP/DN states,
> that is at different angles for identical sets of
incident electrons,
> I conjectured that this could only occur IF the
electrons have no
> preexisting states, and the resultant states were caused
by the
> measurement process. IOW, isn't this example sufficient
to deny local
> realism? AG
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