Update (thanks to Christian Rose for pointing out to me how to find out)

VGA Controller: nVidia NV11
Audio Controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 07)

Could SB Live! be the common link amongst all people who have these
freezes?

-mike


On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 08:34, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
> This is scary - the EXACT same problem I reported on this very list not
> 7 days ago. My computer experiences random lockups.
> 
> Using :
>   RH7.2 (never munged with the kernel), 
>   Ximian 1.4 (from Red Carpet), 
>   Galeon 0.12.8-1 
>   Evolution 1.0. 
> 
> My hardware setup is:
>   Pentium 4, 1.4g using standard motherboard
>   384mb RDAM
>   Not sure what graphics card actually, any easy way to find out?
>   Ditto for sound card - any easy way to figure it out w/o ripping open
> the machine?
> 
> 
> A lot of people sent me helpful suggestions but none have really fixed
> the problem yet, they include:
>  - possible BadRam sectors - use memtest to test RAM, and BadRAM kernel
> patch to avoid using those sectors
>  - bad fonts can lockup an xserver 
>  - another user who has seen it on two RH 7.2 boxes claimed it was the
> kernel version (2.4.9-13)
> 
> Does this help anyone? Or are we all just shooting in the dark here?
> 
> -mike
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 07:30, Rick Ziegler wrote:
> > Ditto for my father: completely stock + Ximian + all updates.
> > 
> > Asus K7M  - AMD-751 Chipset
> > AMD Athlon 500 (slot)
> > Matrox Marvel G400
> > 
> > I'm inclined to think it is something to do with some specific hardware
> > configurations.  There are obviously more people out there using RH 7.2
> > happily than there are experiencing these hard lockups.  
> > 
> > Although RH 7.2 seems to be one common denominator, it can't be the only
> > one. 
> > 
> > At this point this is off topic - anyone know what RedHat list is the
> > most appropriate?
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:35, Luis Villa wrote:
> > > Completely stock 7.2 + Ximian GNOME + RH updates. Kernel is
> > > kernel-2.4.9-13, again from RH. Has locked up at least once a day I
> > > bought the machine and installed 7.2.
> > > Luis
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:35, Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
> > > > Please provide additional information about your setups.  Kernel version
> > > > (is it stock RH72?), any additional configs/packages you have installed
> > > > besides Ximian GNOME and the stock RH72 system.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > --Jason
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:17, Luis Villa wrote:
> > > > > I'm inclined to blame it on RH 7.2 itself; I've seen the same random
> > > > > lockups all the time since I installed RH 7.2, and that sadly includes
> > > > > times I'm sitting on console in bash with no X running. Literally doing
> > > > > nothing but trying to tab-complete. So... I've got no clue, but because
> > > > > I've seen it happen more than a couple time while on console without X
> > > > > running, I really can't blame it on gnome or any packages thereof.
> > > > > Luis 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:16, Rick Ziegler wrote:
> > > > > > My father also experiences frequent lockups with RH 7.2, though he isn't
> > > > > > always using Galeon at the time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Another RH 7.2 user blamed the same lockup on Evolution on the evolution
> > > > > > mailing list within the last week or two.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm inclined to believe there is something screwy with RH 7.2 and (all
> > > > > > of) your hardware configuration(s), or maybe the Ximian packages on
> > > > > > which Galeon and Evolution are built.  (Provided you are using Ximian
> > > > > > gnome).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Perhaps more detailed system information could help track this problem
> > > > > > down.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:00, Victor Putz wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > First: I absolutely love Galeon; I had been wanting a "minimal browser"
> > > > > > > for years, and have been so pleased with Galeon that I haven't used
> > > > > > > anything else sense insalling it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Second: I like it so much that I am still using it even though it is the
> > > > > > > ONLY application I have ever found which will bring my Linux system to 
>its
> > > > > > > knees and require a reboot.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ...and that's not so good.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Quite regularly, when browsing with Galeon, my system will simply freeze
> > > > > > > and become completely unresponsive; no mouse movement, no keyboard 
>motion.
> > > > > > > It will ignore attempts to switch to different TTY console windows, will
> > > > > > > shrug aside control-alt-delete, and even disregards attempts to telnet
> > > > > > > from my wife's computer in the next room (even with X and the console
> > > > > > > completely frozen, I've almost always been able to telnet in from next
> > > > > > > door and shut down properly).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The only thing which recovers the system is the hardware reset button or 
>a
> > > > > > > power-down.  Luckily I'm running RH7.2 with ext3fs, so a reboot isn't 
>very
> > > > > > > traumatic, but it disturbs me quite a bit.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Any ideas on what the problem could be?  I'm using the Galeon 1.0.1 rpm
> > > > > > > for RHL, the mozilla 0.9.6 packages, and the prebuilt 2.4.9-13 kernel 
>rpm.
> > > > > > > The system is quite solid otherwise and I can leave it running for days
> > > > > > > until I surf the web.  Galeon options have Java/Flash off, Javascript
> > > > > > > disabled, popups off.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Poor testing here, though--I have not spent much time trying to surf with
> > > > > > > Mozilla only to see if the problem lays there.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Any help would be, well... helpful.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -->VPutz
> > > > > > > 
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> Mike
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