Then I contend that 8 hours is far to short an estimate (having worked
in a corporate environment and on lots of these upgrades).

I don't think I've ever been backed into giving an estimate on a job
without any information whatsoever.  There are certainly open-ended jobs
without estimates where little up front information is required, but
that's different.

If your customer is so uncooperative as to not be willing to give you
the size of a single file - priv.edb - then I'd be very wary of that
customer.  They are unlikely to recognize your value to them unless you
suitably educate them.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Crista Murphy
Posted At: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 6:51 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Estimated Migration Time
Subject: RE: Estimated Migration Time

The unfortunate thing is that I don't HAVE all the info because the
company hasn't let me in door yet and while I told them it would take
more
to come up with an accurate estimate, they insisted on at least a
ballpark.  Right now, several of the repliers all seem to have never
worked in a corporate environment where they don't care that you don't
have all the info, they still want an estimate of how long it might take
you.

> What's the 8 hours based on?
    There are 250 average sized mailboxes that need to be migrated.  (I
can't even get a fix on what 'average' is to them)
 
> Is the server build part of it? No
> Is the AD/Exchange directory cleanup part of it? Yes
> Is the ADC configuration part of it? The Exchange portion of ADC might
be, they have already migrated to a win2k domain.
> Is the Public Folder store part of it?  No
> Is the backup before and after part of it?  No
> Is the Exchange security lockdown part of it?  Yes
> How much data is there? "Average"
> 
> As has been posted - how long is a piece of string?

How long *IS* the general average piece of string?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Crista Murphy
> Posted At: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:14 PM
> Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
> Conversation: Estimated Migration Time
> Subject: RE: Estimated Migration Time
> 
> I certainly enjoy the vote of confidence!  I've done several upgrades
as
> I
> already mentioned, I've just never had anyone actually ask me for a
> fixed
> idea of how much time it would take so therefore was asking for some
> ballpark estimates for some people who I THOUGHT might be able to add
> better insight.  I had already figured about 8 hours and told them to
> expect to take the server down for the weekend.  Gotta love when you
> look
> for confirmation and get a backhand instead.
> 
> Thanks for help, Ed.
> 
> > LOL!  Someone who's asking a question like this had better add a lot
> of time
> > to restore and redo it when they inevitably screw it up!
> >=20
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Jason
> > Clishe
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 11:33 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Cc: Jason Clishe
> > Subject: RE: Estimated Migration Time
> >=20
> > You mention doing a proposal, and this not being your server. That
> leads me
> > to believe that you are a vendor and this an opportunity with a
> potential
> > (or current) client. Is that correct?
> >=20
> > Jason=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Crista
> > Murphy
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:39 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Estimated Migration Time
> >=20
> > I've done several inplace upgrades from 5.5 to 2k, and a 5.0 to 5.5
> swing
> > upgrade.  They're asking me to put together a proposal on how long
it
> would
> > take to do the upgrade. so like the subject said... I'm just looking
> for an
> > estimated time (6 hours... 8 hours... etc) given that I have done
> several
> > inplace migrations and the swing migration is supposed to be
smoother.
> >=20
> > [As far as why in goddess' name they're not doing '03 server: Not my
> server
> > and they're just now looking at a 2k upgrade so I'd guess they'd be
> ready
> > for '03 in '07 ;) ]
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