Yes, really. Laws are designed to define the floor. Ethics are designed to define the ceiling.
No, I am simply someone that has a particular view of things that people seem to be utterly fascinated with and keep bringing it up. I am not a spokesman, I have an opinion. I have come to my conclusions about you because all I see is talk, talk, talk in your posts but nothing substantive. I have yet to see you make an intelligent comment or argument yet. > A personal attack from me goes sooooo much deeper, but I'll leave that be. > On to bigger and brighter things!!! > > >>"And ethics are not passed as laws. There is no law that a company's > employees cannot accept gifts. The ethics that lawyers and doctors follow > are also not laws." > > Oh really! > > >>"This discussion is about the IT industry, as a whole or in part, deciding > what is and is not ethical. We, as an industry, do that, not a legislative > body." > > Now we're getting somewhere!!! Tell me Greg, are YOU the spokesman for the > IT industry? Does the IT industry have "party" affiliations? Are Ed and > the rest of the MVP's the "Liberal's" in this case where you're the > "Conservative"? Who voted you to be the spokesman for the IT industry and > why didn't I/we get to vote? > > >>"Look, it is obvious that you are discussing something that you have not > bothered educate yourself on, are not being honest in your > criticism,...(bunch of other shinola)" > > Not educated on Ethics? Oh, I'm very educated in many things, IT just > happens to be one of them. I'm just interested in how you came to these > conclusions, actual facts to backup your statements, and anyone else who > follows your beliefs if that is what you want to call them... > > NEXT! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:51 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > What was it then, a compliment? You cannot even be honest in your criticism. > > And ethics are not passed as laws. There is no law that a company's > employees cannot accept gifts. The ethics that lawyers and doctors follow > are also not laws. > > This discussion is about the IT industry, as a whole or in part, deciding > what is and is not ethical. We, as an industry, do that, not a legislative > body. > > Look, it is obvious that you are discussing something that you have not > bothered educate yourself on, are not being honest in your criticism, have > nothing to say and simply want to argue for the sake of arguing. So, that > being said, yes, you are brilliant and you win. Happy? > > > Oh, that was not a personal attack... And I don't lose arguments... > > > > I tell ya what. You find me the documentation to support your claim > > for our industry and I might be inclined to believe you. I'll need > > actual laws passed by Federal/Local Governments or a consortium of > > some kind AND any cases that were brought to trial on this subject. > > Please provide these details in a time stamped format so I can see at > > what point in time these laws went into effect... > > > > There ARE laws on the books regarding this perceived ethical > > violation, right? > > > > Everyone should probably cease assisting you with your Groupwise > > migration since it might get those of us who are not MVP's nominated > > for such things and it would be unethical of us to assist you. So, > > please stop asking for help as the answers we provide will be unethical in > nature... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:34 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > > > Personal attacks are generally the clearest sign that someone has lost > > an argument and has nothing better to say. So now I am a wife beater, > > a liar, I starve children and I get beat up a lot. I keep learning > > things about myself that I never knew before, I love this list. > > > > > You got beat up a lot in High School didn't you... You should have > > > asked them (while being beaten to a pulp) to leave you some brain > > > cells to operate with... > > > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]