You might be right. There's an old stock market saying - the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. Heh.
However, I think, as Ben points out, that an adjustment in client license prices or even a new type of licensing agreement might be in order. Of course, lawmakers will never do the rational thing, and allow MSFT to offer SAAS/Cloud directly. That would be "unfair competition". As much as, at times, and more frequently, I'm not a fan of MSFT, I'm even less a fan of lawmakers. Sigh. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, William Lefkovics <will...@lefkovics.net> wrote: > I appreciate your point. It is certainly not for everyone and it is not even > an option for some. > > But in some cases, a hosting company can provide more control and not less. > And it is not an 'all-or-nothing' thing. > Some aspects of the business can be moved to a service model. > > My point was not whether it is a good or bad move, but rather that the cloud, > SaaS, hosted services, etc, will have an impact on overall future sales for > software vendors including Microsoft. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:51 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: [OT] Thursday Funny > > It may be part of the evolution of networking, but I think it's a dead end. > If you don't have the bits under your direct physical control, you don't own > them or control them at all. > > Data breaches may not be unexpected, but they can and will hurt a lot more in > the future than they do now, as they have more serious consequences, I > sincerely believe. > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, William Lefkovics <will...@lefkovics.net> > wrote: >> "The cloud", Software-as-a-Service, Hosted Solutions, whatever you want to >> call it, is part of the evolution of networking. They are not _worried_ >> about it; they are embracing it (groove.com, mesh.com, office.live.com). >> However, it means fewer installed instances of Windows Server, Office, >> Exchange, etc over time. >> >> Some companies that ARE rich enough to do it in house are still considering >> and some moving to hosted solutions because it saves them money. That is >> both reasonable and expected. Data breaches are not unexpected. I don't >> think anyone believes that it isn't possible. Or outages. Or data loss. >> Even Google and their perpetual beta lost a bunch of peoples' e-mail. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:50 PM >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: [OT] Thursday Funny >> >> For most companies (read, those that aren't rich enough to do it in >> house) "the cloud" is just another form of outsourcing, and a >> particularly bad one. Folks will come to realize that pretty quickly >> once the data breaches start happening in the cloud, just like they do >> inside of the company. I think MSFT's worries are not about the cloud >> - or at least, they shouldn't be. >> >> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM, will...@lefkovics.net >> <will...@lefkovics.net> wrote: >>> I think the sentiment is that the worst is yet to come and the >>> increased trend toward the cloud (argh... i used a buzzword! I'm >>> doomed!) means fewer physical 'seats' for their products. >>> >>> They answer to their shareholders, not their employees or their >>> customers (though obviously ignoring the latter two will impact the former). >>> >>> Hey... I'm a shareholder. >>> >>> Ballmer's letter: >>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10147964-75.html?part=rss&subj=news >>> & >>> tag=2547-1_3-0-5 >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: "Michael B. Smith" <mich...@theessentialexchange.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:45 AM >>> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" >>> <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >>> Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny >>> >>> I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~