That is nice for those systems but how does that help my exchange issue? = ] I 
make my living from Exchange not postfix ...etc telling my customers who just 
upgraded to Exchange that they need something else is not really a great option 
for me.

From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rules

Defining a destination folder for a specific email is trivial in Sendmail, 
Postfix, Zimbra, Procmail, and so on (ok, not trivial, but easier than writing 
a transport agent or something) and is fairly common for spam. For IMAP clients 
and/or users incapable of defining their own rules it seems a valid, abeit 
imperfect solution.

It is no longer a client function when an administrator needs to apply the same 
rule to a large group of users mailboxes, regardless of what the technology 
tries to dictate.


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rules

I simply don't see how moving to sendmail or whatever allows you to define the 
DESTINATION FOLDER of a particular email. That seems very much a client 
function to me than a (normal) server function.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rules

Because your task seems easier to do on certain mail server/client 
combinations, it would help for those non-Outlook clients.  It's just an 
option, since Exchange doesn't seem to have a simple server-side transport 
solution for you.


From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rules

And how would a different email server help me make a rule for all of the users?

From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rules

Well, Pine can use IMAP and OWA Lite does see the Junk Mail folder, so I 
imagine it could work for them to in ideal circumstances.

Otherwise, I would suggest an alternate email server for those clients who 
insist on using or are forced to use a simple mail client. Have Exchange 
forward mail to unresolved recipients to that mail server where more granular 
message control can be exercised.
________________________________
From: "KevinM" <kev...@wlkmmas.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:10 PM
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Subject: RE: Rules
What about for pine clients = ]  or chrome clients getting owa lite?

From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rules

There is no option to move to a specific folder.  You'd have to depend on 
Content Filtering to do that for you.  For IMAP clients, this should work fine.
________________________________
From: "KevinM" <kev...@wlkmmas.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:52 PM
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Subject: RE: Rules
I did not see any server side rules that would move to a folder. Are you 
thinking that I make the rule raise the SCL to the MAX if X is in the header.. 
that sounds like a good idea.. will it work?

From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rules

Isn't there a transport rule condition "when a message header contains specific 
words"?
You could set the SCL based on the presence of X-Spam and have it moved to junk 
email server side.




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