Hey Kevin, What happened to the idea of using a transport rule to raise the SCL and thus move those mails to the junk email folder? Did the rant between Ben and Michael ever rule that option completely out (IE can text based IMAP clients see the junk mail folder) ?
If not, a little bit of searching turned up this post on Glen Scales' blog a while back http://gsexdev.blogspot.com/2006/11/creating-server-side-rule-to-move.html which appears like something that could easily be modified to create a server-side rule for each user that looked for your custom header and dumped in a specific folder. It totally sucks doing it per user, but if you script new user creation, it makes it doable. -troy ________________________________ From: KevinM [kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rules That is nice for those systems but how does that help my exchange issue? = ] I make my living from Exchange not postfix …etc telling my customers who just upgraded to Exchange that they need something else is not really a great option for me. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rules Defining a destination folder for a specific email is trivial in Sendmail, Postfix, Zimbra, Procmail, and so on (ok, not trivial, but easier than writing a transport agent or something) and is fairly common for spam. For IMAP clients and/or users incapable of defining their own rules it seems a valid, abeit imperfect solution. It is no longer a client function when an administrator needs to apply the same rule to a large group of users mailboxes, regardless of what the technology tries to dictate. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rules I simply don’t see how moving to sendmail or whatever allows you to define the DESTINATION FOLDER of a particular email. That seems very much a client function to me than a (normal) server function. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rules Because your task seems easier to do on certain mail server/client combinations, it would help for those non-Outlook clients. It’s just an option, since Exchange doesn’t seem to have a simple server-side transport solution for you. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rules And how would a different email server help me make a rule for all of the users? From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rules Well, Pine can use IMAP and OWA Lite does see the Junk Mail folder, so I imagine it could work for them to in ideal circumstances. Otherwise, I would suggest an alternate email server for those clients who insist on using or are forced to use a simple mail client. Have Exchange forward mail to unresolved recipients to that mail server where more granular message control can be exercised. ________________________________ From: "KevinM" <kev...@wlkmmas.org> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:10 PM To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Subject: RE: Rules What about for pine clients = ] or chrome clients getting owa lite? From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rules There is no option to move to a specific folder. You'd have to depend on Content Filtering to do that for you. For IMAP clients, this should work fine. ________________________________ From: "KevinM" <kev...@wlkmmas.org> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:52 PM To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Subject: RE: Rules I did not see any server side rules that would move to a folder. Are you thinking that I make the rule raise the SCL to the MAX if X is in the header.. that sounds like a good idea.. will it work? From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rules Isn't there a transport rule condition "when a message header contains specific words"? You could set the SCL based on the presence of X-Spam and have it moved to junk email server side. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
