Kurt: Storagecraft has a SAAS (Software as a service) option where you pay approx $40 per month for the software. That gets you maintenance and upgrades as well.
Clyde W. Bennett, President Clyde Bennett & Associates 1011A S. Congress Ave. Austin, Texas 78704-1126 (512) 442-3744 fax (512) 442-4014 www.cwbserv.com cbenn...@cwbserv.com -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: System Back-up solution. dedupe indeed expensive. I've priced it - we went from TSM to Ultrabac, and I priced out a number of other packages during the eval. Given our budgetary restrictions, the UB was the best we could do. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 14:29, Bill Songstad <bsongs...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't duplicate for onsite. I have the live copy and a raid 5 "copy", > Then I have the current backup onsite and the week-old backup offsite. Long > term, we keep 2 years on site from disks rotated out quarterly. Then > purge. Our backups are really for DR only. Nobody wants to restore > anything over 90 days; certainly not stuff that is years old. Two years is > more than I think we need, but it is a service/faux security blanket to > users. We aren't legally bound to retain anything not in live use except in > the case of lawsuit. Then we'd just buy more disks. > > My only suggestion to you is breaking your network apart an doing separate > backups. You may be better off graduating to a data management solution > with deduplication. $$ > > -Bill > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> So, not a huge amount of data. 500gb drives are pretty cheap, fer sher. >> >> Do you duplicate the drives for local storage before sending them >> offsite, or is it in a RAID array that you can break the mirror on, or >> even just replace both drives as part of your rotation? >> >> Do you need to worry about longer term archiving? >> >> We use D2D2T, and my problem is that I backup about 2.5tb over a >> weekend, and it takes a long time - if I start on Friday evening at >> 17:00, my last full backup (just to disk!) ends on Monday mid-morning. >> Since I then have to trickle to tape, and I have chosen to duplicate >> the full to a second copy on tape for offsite storage, it takes until >> Wednesday to finish. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:20, Bill Songstad <bsongs...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Not a lot of data being backed up. >> > Exchange= 11 GB 30 minutes >> > File server= 60 GB 4hrs >> > DB server= 25 GB 2 hrs >> > Web/backup server= 15 GB 30 minutes >> > >> > Each server except exchange does one full and 4 incrementals. Exchange >> > is >> > full every day. I'm careful not to overlap jobs so nothing starts >> > within a >> > half hour of finish time for anything else. So Monday night basically >> > takes >> > all night to get everything. All the week's backups fit on a 500GB disk >> > with plenty of room. Each week we take last week's disk to a >> > nearby safedeposit box when we send our bank deposit. >> > >> > Naturally that won't work for everybody, but if you can handle a lengthy >> > reinstall window, and risking a whole week's backup onsite, it is dirt >> > cheap. And way more reliable than my tapes ever were. >> > >> > -Bill >> > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> How much data are you backing up? >> >> >> >> What does your backup rotation look like? >> >> >> >> How long are your backup times? >> >> >> >> Do you rotate your media to secure offsite storage? >> >> >> >> Kurt >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:31, Bill Songstad <bsongs...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > I pitched tapes a few years ago, and never looked back. I back up >> >> > exchange >> >> > over the network with NTbackup run from a scheduled task script >> >> > on W2k3 >> >> > server. The backup destination has $20 drive trays attached to a hot >> >> > swappable SATA controller. I put in my own Sata Drives and rotate >> >> > them >> >> > by >> >> > hand weekly. Very reliable. Almost free. I do a test restore >> >> > weekly >> >> > and >> >> > have not had a failure in two years. I think many more people spend >> >> > thousands on a backup solution for exchange than really need to. >> >> > >> >> > -Bill >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Doug Rooney >> >> > <d...@sonomatilemakers.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Greetings all. >> >> >> >> >> >> We currently have DLT VS1 tape back-up as well as USB 2.0 connected >> >> >> external drives. >> >> >> >> >> >> We are using Backup Exec for the tapes and custom batch programs for >> >> >> the >> >> >> external drives, which by the way are connected on a separate >> >> >> back-up >> >> >> server. >> >> >> >> >> >> Our tapes are old and have many failures, upper management has >> >> >> decided >> >> >> to >> >> >> abandon tapes and go only with external drives. >> >> >> >> >> >> My question is, has anyone done this? What software do you use, Pros >> >> >> / >> >> >> Cons. >> >> >> >> >> >> The problem I am experiencing now is in order to back-up the data >> >> >> bases, I >> >> >> need to take them off-line. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you for any advice you can offer. >> >> >> >> >> >> (Exchange 2003, Windows 2003, one set of external drives are 500GB >> >> >> the >> >> >> other is 250GB) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank You >> >> >> >> >> >> ~Doug Rooney >> >> >> Sonoma Tilemakers >> >> >> IT Manager >> >> >> 7750 Bell Rd. >> >> >> Windsor Ca, 95492 >> >> >> i...@sonomatilemakers.com >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
