On 15 May 2002 13:02:09 -0400
Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 01:18, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: 
> > How good are the integrated devices on these boards, compared to the
> > ones you can buy as add-in PCI cards? 
> 
> Don't know yet, you've got me started on CPU utilization numbers. ;) 
> I'll give you the bean spill when I get thru distilling this google
> page... 
> 
> Well, here's a bit I just found, regarding CPU utilization and IEEE
> 1394/USB 2.0:
> 
> http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,apn=7&s=1005&a=25038&app=5&ap=6,00.asp
> 
> This test puts both buses under considerable stress as it is
> evaluating a portable hard drive capable of attaching to both buses. 
> Therefore to the authors of the article it seemed an excellent
> opportunity for a bus to bus performance comparison.
> 
> BTW, it may be just me, but that site seems slow.

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> 
> 
> > Tom's reviews never seem to give them much
> > attention. How do they perform? Do they tax the CPU any more than a
> > standalone card would? I am interested in getting a board with
> > integrated sound and ethernet. I would like the board to have at
> > least 4 IDE interfaces (not channels) so I can give an entire
> > interface to each of my devices. How well do the features of these
> > boards work in Linux?
> > 
> > Based on these, can anyone make a board recommendation? I don't want
> > to spend too much money, and that is the reason why I'm going for
> > integrated peripherals. They need to be decent, though.
> 
> In the link above, it's evident that USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394 are very
> very close in throughput; 1394 has the edge in CPU utilization at
> 11.6%.  USB 2.0 rated at 15.4%.  The authors of the article I'm
> looking at point out that drivers have a big impact on these numbers.
> I don't yet see a mention of the chipset that supports USB; I'm still
> looking for comparisons of that sort.
> 
> With regard to IDE controllers, I can tell you that a HPT37X IDE
> controller is better than anything I've seen yet for IDE drives;
> including the Promise options.  I've got my primary Raid 0 array on
> the integrated Highpoint controller.  This frees up the vanilla IDE
> controller on the mainboard for such mundane stuff like CDrom or zip,
> or experimentation; keeping the Highpoint channels free and dedicated
> to soft Raid.
> 
> Since you're board searching, check this out:
> 
> http://www.enmic.de/www/produkte/boards/8ttx2+/8ttx2+.htm
> 
> First board from a German company I've ever seen; impressive. In the
> Uncle Tom roundup OpenGL standings, here is where it stood:
> 
> http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q2/020509/kt333-29.html
> 
> Originally I was leaning towards the Epox, but the german Enmic board
> is touted by Pabst as being supremely stable; by comparison he said
> there were some crashes with the Epox 8k3a+.  This is interesting
> since externally the Epox and the Enmic are virtually
> indistinguishable.  The stability statement doesn't bother me much,
> (the Epox) I take that with a grain of salt, since he got a weeks
> worth of benches out of this board, after it went thru the standard
> burn in process.  If he had gotten some real trouble he would have
> raised holy hell.  Or I should say unholy hell.
> 
> What does bother me is the same thing that might be attractive to you,
> namely the onboard sound.  I'd rather not have onboard sound, I think
> it's evil; I've already got two sound cards here that are exceptional.
> However, since I love the Epox and the Enmic boards so much in this
> review, I'm considering getting one of those anyway and then disabling
> the onboard sound.  I looked in the features section of the TH review
> (there for anybody who bothered to read the article) and found what
> chipset the onboard sound is using, so you can evaluate it for
> yourself:
> 
> http://www.realtek.com.tw/htm/products/cp/alc650.asp
> 
> If by chance you are interested in perusing the board features, here
> is the link to the Enmic:
> 
> http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q2/020509/kt333-07.html
> 
> HTH, Best Regards, L8r, LX
> 
> :)
> 
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