On Sunday 16 February 2003 10:44 am, Guy Zelck wrote: > Hi, > > Simon Ree wrote: > >Guy Zelck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hello all, > >> > >>Will there ever be a KDE3.1 version released for 8.x? > >> > >>I only now can say that I've got my 8.1 system like I want it to be. In > >>the mean time Mandrake raced versions, which in my view is crazy . > >>It's becoming more and more difficult to have recent versions of > >>programs. I find myself more and more rebuilding packages. A lot of > >>packages (libs) change names between versions and taking a recent spec > >>file to rebuild a package yourself is often hell as you have find out > >>what you need from scratch and change all required package names in the > >>spec. > > > >Why change to a new program version in the first place if you are happy > >using a old os version? > > Old? MD8.1 is from Sep 2001, that's 1.5 years old. Using KDE2.2 together > with all the other updates doesn't mean I have an old os. It's not > because every 6 mths there's a new version, that the previous 2 > versions are suddenly old. They overtook RH in version number, very > good Marketing wise, but not good for anything else. I think they have had a number above RH for some long time, "overtakeing" as long as three years ago is not anything new.
> > You would advocate That mandrake should build > >packages for for all of their old versions? KDE 3.1 for v6 maybe? > > That's exagerating, that was not my question? A longer support period > would be more reasonable, say 3 years, certainly for substantial > packages. Creating a newer version less often would help, and instead > provide upgrade waves (service packs ;-) ) depending on the defination of "support" and what you thnk you should be intitled to when you get something that is available for free. Perhaps if you purchased the box version at a retail store in The USa you"might" have some beef worth bringing up with the vendor, (best buy?,or McMillian publishing? or whomever gave you the idea that this "free to download" product should have support provided for you. > >>Even guys that started of with 9.0 now have to be club members to get > >>kde3.1. this is just false. Please refrain form public statemants as "fact" unless you are prepared to provide public evidence to back up your statement. such "falsehoods" in other forums (about other products too) might be enough to get you sued for slander. the suit may not prevail, but you certianly could find yourself paying a lot in legal fees that you would never recover. > This is a sad development. I see Mandrake more and more slip > >>away from being a free os distributor. As I understand it, Mandrakesoft is a "for profit" company, and not a "free software distributor" I think that defination should be reserved for... say... the PLF. > I understand they have > >>difficulties so I payed for a regular membership myself for 2 years in > >>a row now. You get very little with this. But more and more the regular > >>users are left out. This is very sad I find. I starts to stink for $s. > > > >Cooker may be a choice for those who allways want the latest and > >supposidly greatest. Still free. > > Then I could have as well upgraded to 9.0. and it is free still for just the download > >>So I'm afraid there's little chance to get rpms from Mandrake for 8.x. > >>If there's no good soul in the community who put packages available I'm > >>in for an ordeal to get kde3.1 compiled and packaged for 8.1. > > > >Maybe you could build it? > > I'll have a go at it, sure. > > > I'm not saying mandrake shouldn't support old > >versions, but the old distro did not ship with the intention of being > >brought up the the latest level of every package. My Explorer came with > >a 5L V8, they now come with a 4.6L V8, should Ford provide me with a > >upgrade path other than purchasing a new one? > > Crummy comparison. > > Guy. _I_ will say they should not support older versions. I was going to go into my reasons, but I will leave that since it is worth discussing in a new thread or by personal offlist mail if anyone else cares enough to ask. Really, I think the reasons are self-evident to anyone that thinks about it for a few minutes.
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