[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is the exact reason for me trying other distros. Sorce based distros
that are not sold are the way to go. (For me). I still use Mandrake at
work for servers and workstations but I have been trying others and found
"Lunar Linux" "Sorceror" and "Gentoo". With these you have no need for
packages being made for your current system as it uses the sources.

So give one a try.

Ralph

I've allways loved Mandrake and they did a lot of good for the community but lately they turned so commercial. They seem to have cut themselves loose from the free spirit of the opensource community we all liked and still like. It's not the community's fault they sold themselves to moneyhungry managers. The way they race versions isn't healthy for a broad following, it's just not serious anymore. It looks like a rat race.
Can you imaging new Linux users who struggle to get on board, once they feel 25% at ease with the system they find themselves on an abandoned boat.
I hope they prove us wrong but I have strong doubts ...
Lately I've been orienting myself towards Debian. They seem to have a sound look on things and don't race unnecesarily but take it in their stride.


Guy.



Hello all,

Will there ever be a KDE3.1 version released for 8.x?

I only now can say that I've got my 8.1 system like I want it to be. In
the mean time Mandrake raced versions, which in my view is crazy . It's
becoming more and more difficult to have recent versions of
programs. I find myself more and more rebuilding packages. A lot of
packages (libs) change names between versions and taking a recent spec
file to rebuild a package yourself is often hell as you have find out
what you need from scratch and change all required package names in the
spec.

Even guys that started of with 9.0 now have to be club members to get
kde3.1. This is a sad development. I see Mandrake more and more slip
away from being a free os distributor. I understand they have
difficulties so I payed for a regular membership  myself for 2 years in
a row now. You get very little with this. But more and more the regular
users are left out. This is very sad I find. I starts to stink for $s.


So I'm afraid there's little chance to get rpms from Mandrake for 8.x. If there's no good soul in the community who put packages available I'm in for an ordeal to get kde3.1 compiled and packaged for 8.1.

Guy.







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