On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 06:29, Simon Ree wrote: > Guy Zelck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Will there ever be a KDE3.1 version released for 8.x? > > > > I only now can say that I've got my 8.1 system like I want it to be. In > > the mean time Mandrake raced versions, which in my view is crazy . > > It's becoming more and more difficult to have recent versions of > > programs. I find myself more and more rebuilding packages. A lot of > > packages (libs) change names between versions and taking a recent spec > > file to rebuild a package yourself is often hell as you have find out > > what you need from scratch and change all required package names in the > > spec. > > Why change to a new program version in the first place if you are happy > using a old os version? You would advocate That mandrake should build > packages for for all of their old versions? KDE 3.1 for v6 maybe? > > > > Even guys that started of with 9.0 now have to be club members to get > > kde3.1. This is a sad development. I see Mandrake more and more slip > > away from being a free os distributor. I understand they have > > difficulties so I payed for a regular membership myself for 2 years in > > a row now. You get very little with this. But more and more the regular > > users are left out. This is very sad I find. I starts to stink for $s. > > Cooker may be a choice for those who allways want the latest and > supposidly greatest. Still free. > > > > So I'm afraid there's little chance to get rpms from Mandrake for 8.x. > > If there's no good soul in the community who put packages available I'm > > in for an ordeal to get kde3.1 compiled and packaged for 8.1. > > Maybe you could build it? I'm not saying mandrake shouldn't support old > versions, but the old distro did not ship with the intention of being > brought up the the latest level of every package. My Explorer came with > a 5L V8, they now come with a 4.6L V8, should Ford provide me with a > upgrade path other than purchasing a new one? > Guy,
Good point I think that MDK has a responsibility for bugfixes and security on current. (note this doesn't include upgrades just because it's nice.) And into a pretty far future security fixes. IE if a zlib type bug comes out all currently supported versions definitely should get the new rpm. But older versions need one of two actions. If in April a security hole of this level even though 8.x just got dropped they should for the purpose of good customer relations provide either a binary rpm or at the very least a "generic" src rpm that can be used. This isn't required it just makes good business sense. For older systems the courtesy would be to provide minimal "High you are on your own but this should help you not break things." type instructions. For example. *************************************** For users of older versions of MDK you can go to www.thisappishosed.com and download the source code. Follow the instructions there and use the configure switch --prefix=/usr to ensure that the libs go in the correct place on your box. Note that this will not update or change the rpm database and the installation of later applications may not be able to autodetect that you have this installed. Also note that MDK is not responsible for any problems this manual upgrade may cause. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This does two things. One it shows MDK cares and two it scares the heck out of a lot of people, hopefully pushing them to do a system upgrade. The downside. Many will just ignore it. (ala Slammer the patch was 9 months old. M$ was not at fault on that one.) Thankfully MDK doesn't pull a RH and remove the tools you need for manual upgrades from the low cost boxed set. James
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