--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So the other Shankaracharyas are chopped liver? The > > fact that Swaroop had face time with Guru Dev doesn't > > mean anything. Guru Dev's master had many disciples, > > but we only hear about Guru Dev because good disciples > > are few and far between. In other traditions, Judas > > was a disciple, too, but just not a very good one. I > > would suggest the litmus test for whether Swaroopanand > > is a legitimate Shankaracharya would be if he supports > > Maharishi's campaign to enlighten the world -- since > > he obviously does not, then darkness has placed him in > > a seat that his level of consciousness does not > > qualify him for. > > Swaroopanand Ji was not just another devotee, he was one of the inner > circle of chelas. > > There are several very useful books available of Shantanand Ji, > another of Gurudev's chelas, from the Study Society. > > But the test of a good disciple of Gurudev is not necessarilly > that 'we' hear about them. >
> And actually 'we' do not hear about Guru Dev. That is why he has his > own webpage on my site > http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm **************** As a matter of fact, Guru Dev was so very well-known in India that the first President of India paid tribute to him. Swaroopanand is strictly power-hungry, claiming title to not one, but two seats of the Shankaracharya tradition, and seeking to unseat the current Kanchi seer, in order to magnify his power. But regardless of whether Swaroopananda is any good or not, the original post was about the fact that Vedic instruction was associated with a preceptor's fee, the Gurudakshina, which is easily verified with examples like Krishna's payment to his guru. Claiming that MMY is breaking with Vedic tradition by front-loading the preceptor's fee for Vedic instruction (which is far more than "selling a mantra") is nonsense, and you have failed to acknowledge that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/