> Yes, that seems what Jon Hagelin in TMmovement-Jihad-eese-speak does > constantly push and MMY as the spiritual leader argues too and they > are scientists.
Oh the surety of youth, how charming...wait a second, that dude is even older than me! I guess I mean that I used to think that way in the surety of my own, long lost, youth! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > But I am sad > to hear you say that you are throwing out ALL of > >modern > > science > because it doesn't suit your opinion. On that idea are > > fascist states > born. > > > > What are you talking about? Do you think that my lack desire to do > >TM > > means that I am rejecting science? > Do you believe that the research > into the benifits of TM means that everyone should do it? > > > > > > Yes, that seems what Jon Hagelin in TMmovement-Jihad-eese-speak does > constantly push and MMY as the spiritual leader argues too and they > are scientists. Seems that this is the weight of the logical > conclusion of the science. That the research > into the benifits of TM means that everyone should do it. > > To quote another radical intellectual leader of TM-jihad, "The 21st > century will be about research published in resepected peer- > reviewed scientific journals. > Get used to it." > > Is where the battleground of spiritual warfare has gone to now. > > "Extensive published research shows that coherence and positivity is > created in collective consciousness when a small number of people > practice the Transcendental Meditation and more advanced Yogic Flying > techniques together in a group-" > > "The Invincible America Assembly is raising the quality of collective > consciousness and behavior throughout society to be more harmonious, > more life supporting. And Nature is responding more positively." > > End of story > > Yes, & evidently means that everyone should do it in one form or > another for many good reasons. > > -Doug in FF > > Hagelin's current TMmovement thoughts Published in > the Fairfield Daily Ledger: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/157620 > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I spent a month with David OJ studying the collected papers. > Some > > > > published research is better than others. One critical context > to > > > > evaluate about research is what conclusions are being drawn from > > > > the studies. This is an area were even some good movement > studies > > > > fall down IMO. In other words, it is possible to do a good > study on > > > > improvements on a rod and frame test. It is another thing to > > > > extrapolate that this means that mediators have a more stable > > > internal > > > > state of reference. > > > > > > > > Although I share your enthusiasm for the scientific method as a > tool > > > > to expand knowledge, I don't forget that it is always humans > using > > > > this tool. It is never practiced in purity. The TM studies > are not > > > > all on one level of reliability, published or not. David went > into > > > a > > > > lot of detail about which tests were more rigorous than others. > > > > Getting published is only one aspect in evaluating the > credibility > > > of > > > > scientific research. >>> > > > > > > That is fairly common in science, and that is why the rigor > aspect > > > needs to be constantly refined, and a lot of the TM research was > > > found be more robust than most studies in any science. But I am > sad > > > to hear you say that you are throwing out ALL of modern science > > > because it doesn't suit your opinion. On that idea are fascist > states > > > born. > > > > > > I won't go down that road. > > > THE ONLY (I stress, THE ONLY) way for people to agree on things > in > > > the world are through study and replication under validated > > > conditions. A LOT of the most important research on TM is robust, > and > > > only anti-science freaks bring up the argument that if 1 in 10 of > > > them is not strong, then they are, by default , ALL of them > weak. > > > That is the way of the Neocons and I am appalled to see so many > > > people here on FFL, like Boo, Ru, Poo, Lurk, Turq, Smirk, Jurk, > Curt, > > > and Burt, all acting EXACTLY like the Neocons when something in > > > science does not suit their opinion. > > > > > > I am appalled. > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > >