>Vaj wrote: > > > > Since subtlety of meditation and the length or depth of meditation >are > measurable, presumably we can have some physical measurement.
Yes, and on that basis we do come back to: The future for the 21st century is research published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals. Period. Get used to it. -OffWorld And: Jon Hagelin in the FF Ledger: "Extensive published research shows that coherence and positivity is created in collective consciousness when a small number of people practice the Transcendental Meditation and more advanced Yogic Flying techniques together in a group-" "The Invincible America Assembly is raising the quality of collective consciousness and behavior throughout society to be more harmonious, more life supporting. And Nature is responding more positively." End of story Hagelin in FFDailyLedger: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/157620 But can > physical instruments capture the full breadth of what a person can > experience? I think not. While I would be careful of assigning > existence to phenomenon of any kind, certain subjective phenomenon > have been repeatedly and predictably used for ascertaining refinement > of perception for millenia. Perhaps what we need to realize is that > "objective science" has it's limitations in the limitations of > Scientific Materialist Dogma (reductionism and objectivism esp.). What > is needed--and throughly robust side-by-side--is a pure subjective > science. It is this pure subjective science that the pioneers of > "contemplative science" (contemplative neuroscience and contemplative > psychology) are attempting to bridge. With that paradigm shift could > come a new species of evidence altogether. > > All subtlety of meditation would prove is that we are capable of > having high-resolution and vivid perception, it really wouldn't tell > us any more objectively than that, other than it might have side > benefits like reduction of negative emotions and so on. When combined > with other attitudes outside of meditation proper, it can extend them > into inter-meditational periods however and benefit overall living. > > I don't know of any research on angels per se, but IME these are > largely considered nyams or meditational experiences, but there are > exceptions of course. >
