Curtis, I think you and Turq are the only persons posting here who have kidded about ganja -- are you about to come out of the closet on usage?
I remember smoking pot one month after learning TM -- I said at the time: "It is flooding me with thought; no wonder Maharishi made me go two weeks off-dope before I could get my mantra." I stopped using and went on to have my stellar career in sober TM mongering. I did eventually have spiritual experiences that were as entertaining as dope, but these days, I'm thinking that almost any chemical use is okay if done with a mindful intent -- even if the intent is only to "enjoy a buzz." I think Carlos Castanada set the correct tone with his small amounts of dope combined with deep attending-ness -- if he ever told the truth, that is. Buzzing combined with attentiveness (self inquiry of sorts) figures to be evolutionary to me despite the interfering effects that chemicals are said to have on the mind/body coordination. Same deal for booze. At about the 3/4th point into a can of beer, on an empty stomach, I can get some fairly nice expansiveness. When I see someone really into "oblivion," even then, I can spin a tale that it's a kind of Advaitic exploration of identification. On my good days, I can see a homeless person with a bottle in a bag as a holyman. Dreadlocks, and candles and bongs, oh my. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's see now... reason for going to India instead of staying > home...oh I know... > > chillum packed with temple hash! > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <reavismarek@> > wrote: > > > > Edg, I like 'form' just as much as the next guy, and see it (as you > > yourself have noted) as a reflection of what's inside. I love images > > of the Gods because each one is a respository in form of some > > aspiration of the human psyche that points back towards the self. > > > > Just so the Maharishi memorial for me (or so I would hope it to be), > > a place for pilgrimage, not because it's any special-er than any > > place else, but because for me it'll be a touchstone for the years of > > my attention on Maharishi and what I gained through that > > association. Like swishing around in the hot water to feel the heat > > that's already there. > > > > There's no ultimate value for going anywhere or doing anything except > > the perceived gain to the individual. I enjoy the anticipation of a > > pilgimage around many of the sacred sites of India associated with > > the history of Maharishi and Guru Dev just because. No other reason. > > > > Marek > > > > ** > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Marek, > > > > > > What spiritual reason is there for visiting the site? Just close > > your > > > eyes, and you're as close to Maharishi as anyone ever was....and > > > symbols being only as valuable as the projection upon them, you > > could > > > do that from the comfort of home with simply imagining the visit. > > > > > > I'm betting you have something to teach me, but I sure don't get it. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <reavismarek@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, N.1008; I look forward to being able to visit that site and > > pay > > > > my respects someday in the future. He was a fine man with a long > > > > life and a tremendous influence on many people. He certainly > > gave my > > > > life some wonderful top spin and I'm entirely grateful. > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > > > > > <reavismarek@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Comment below: > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of the commentary....why couldn't they shutup > > > > > > > > at least for one second? It was as if they felt they > > > > > > > > had to fill every moment with yak-yak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It reminded me of any puja with Indians. As soon as the > > pundit > > > > > > starts > > > > > > > chanting the whole audience starts chatting away and > > ignoring > > > > the > > > > > > > priest! One of my favorite babbles from him was when he > > would > > > > > > claim > > > > > > > that there were no words to express...and then keep talking! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It also reflects the reality of the crowd. Most Indians > > would > > > > > not > > > > > > > actually meditate but touching Maharishi's foot or getting > > the > > > > > > magical > > > > > > > "darshon" at his cremation can draw a crowd. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aside from the incessant talking I really enjoyed how > > natural a > > > > > > public > > > > > > > cremation seemed. It seems like one step more acceptance > > of > > > > > death > > > > > > and > > > > > > > I like it better than throwing someone in the ground. It > > seems > > > > > more > > > > > > > complete. I bailed around 2:30 Eastern time because I read > > it > > > > > can > > > > > > > burn for up to 6 hours! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess in the end India was proud of its famous son. I > > think > > > > > > > Maharishi would have loved the whole show. It was an > > amazing > > > > > step > > > > > > in > > > > > > > technology to be able to sit in my home and witness such an > > > > > > event. I > > > > > > > appreciate that it was available as well as the viewing. I > > > > > think > > > > > > the > > > > > > > movement got this one right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > **snip to end** > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree with you, Curtis, particularly the last point. It > > > > surprised > > > > > > me how open and up front the TMO was about Maharishi's death > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > final rites. I expected that Maharishi's passing would have > > been > > > > > > hushed up a la L.Ron Hubbard's never ending voyage and, > > except > > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > handful of insiders, no one would have known how or when he > > > > > actually > > > > > > left the stage. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was happy to watch the whole thing. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, very nice. That TV commentor did a marvelous job on > > commenting > > > > > on Maharishis life in reviving the Vedas even though he was not > > an > > > > > insider. Reportedly a marble memorian will be built at that > > exact > > > > > spot. It's nice that we will have a place of pilgrimage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
