--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <sandiego108@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> > <ruthsimplicity@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108"
<sandiego108@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > > the insults are to the individual ego, that it ever thinks
it
> > knows
> > > > what is going on within its treasured context of segregated,
> > albeit
> > > > artificial, existence. this keeps getting broken down by
tearing
> > > > down and destroying the ego's world view until it cannot
resist
> > any
> > > > longer and surrenders, dies, disappears, and in so doing
> > transforms
> > > > into cosmic ego.
> > > >
> > > > there is no PTSD or PTED to experience once this process is
> > complete
> > > > because there is no longer a localized self to apply it to,
no
> > if a
> > > > equals b and b equals c then a equals c. does not compute.
no
> > one
> > > > home in the conventional sense.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I would like to explore this a bit more with you. Several
people
> > here
> > > have implied that you previously were on this forum using a
> > different
> > > identity, Jim Flanagan. I don't care if you use different
> > identities.
> > > But apparently Jim Flanagan claimed he was enlightened. Do
you
> > make
> > > that claim? Tell me a bit about what enlightenment means to
you.
> > >
> > > From what I have read from you, it appears that good and evil
is
> > not
> > > part of your concept of enlightenment,
> >
> > i have no concepts of enlightenment. within the experience of
> > enlightenment, there are no concepts. most thinking and concepts
> > exist only for the ego's pleasure. action in enlightenment is
just
> > action-- direct experience, not much about concepts,
justification,
> > all of that ego dressing.
> >
> > that when enlightened you are
> > > nature and nature has no good or evil. (I am referring to your
> > > tsunami analogy).
> >
> > its an integrated life-- no more i end here they end there, so
not
> > many boundaries-- all flow, and flow doesn't make moral
distinctions
> > at the level of morality. so morality is transcended.
> >
> > of course once in the enlightened state there are discoveries to
be
> > made about the cosmic ego. in other words who's cosmos is it?
and
> > depending on the experience, the values of the enlightened will
> > mirror the values and the personality of the owner of the
cosmos.
> > very tough to put into words and be understood clearly-- because
the
> > ego is not trying anymore to build boundaries in order to ensure
its
> > existence, change is constant and experience is constant, and
though
> > truth is known as an unmistakable dynamic energy, it is not
known
> > anymore as a set of static ideas and concepts. the point is to
gain
> > enlightenment first.
> >
>
>
> I understand the difficulty of putting this in words. I want to
step
> back a step. Are you enlightened?
>
> I am not setting up a personal attack. I am trying to figure out
what
> enlightenment "is" to different people.
>
please send me the question at my screenname @ yahoo dot com. thanks.
