> It was as though I were in deep meditation throughout the whole dynamic,
> noisy experience. Not withdrawn or passive in the least – just
> imperturbable. 


I'm glad you weighed in Rick.  I think your example illustrates that
the usefulness of these states is context dependent.  In a situation
like you mentioned, a detached silence is a real asset.  But I believe
that this state is not useful for making love.  Neuro-linquistic
programming (NLP) looks at these different states in relationship to
the usefulness in a specific context.  Their goal is to be able to
shift fluidly between the options.  I think they are related to the
states produced by meditation.  Where I differ with traditional yogic
theory is that they seem to feel that you can't have too much silence
along with activity.  I think you can depending on what you are doing.



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> On Feb 24, 2008, at 6:30 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >>>>> 
> This is where I disagree with Maharishi's traditional interpretation
> of the value of this experience. I think he takes these useful states
> too far. For example witnessing sleep in a nap seems very restful and
> efficient. Witnessing sleep at night doesn't seem as restful.
> Witnessing in activity is not my preferred state to interact with the
> world. It isn't even my preferred style of functioning with my own
> mind and emotions. This is a fundamental difference of opinion I have
> with Maharishi concerning its value for a person's life. It comes at
> a cost. You kind of have to buy into his whole perspective on life to
> think of it as a step of higher consciousness, which is a step I am
> not taking.
> 
> Witnessing is not a dissassociative state in which different aspects
of the
> personality are fragmented from one another. It's a natural
experience that
> arises when the silent aspect of life is open to awareness along
with the
> active aspects. It doesn't diminish ones functionality, but enhances
it. For
> instance, recently I had to break up a serious dog fight. I was
walking an
> unneutered chow/husky mix off a leash and he ran ahead and began
sniffing
> around an unneutered, leashed German Shepherd. Soon they were
fighting. I
> had to run 50 yards, then reach in and grab the chow with teeth flashing
> everywhere, blood flowing, and the Shepherd's owner swearing at the
top of
> his lungs. The same silence that always underlies my activities was even
> more evident, by contrast, and enabled me to react swiftly and
decisively
> and keep my head while the other dog owner (and my wife) were losing
theirs.
> It was as though I were in deep meditation throughout the whole dynamic,
> noisy experience. Not withdrawn or passive in the least – just
> imperturbable. 
> 
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