Bull's eye again, Mr. Archer, in my humble opinion. --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:40 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing, was: Steve > Martin of Wilmington > > > > > It was as though I were in deep meditation > throughout the whole dynamic, > > noisy experience. Not withdrawn or passive in the > least just > > imperturbable. > > I'm glad you weighed in Rick. > > Sorry I dont have time to follow the discussion > more closely. > > >I think your example illustrates that > the usefulness of these states is context dependent. > In a situation > like you mentioned, a detached silence is a real > asset. But I believe > that this state is not useful for making love. > > Our difference is that you regard these states as > relative perspectives, > whereas I regard them as openings to universal > realities. That makes sense, > since you doubt the existence of subtler realities. > You also imply in your > last sentence above that higher states make one > emotionally numb. I think > there is evidence for that in the TMO, but there is > also evidence throughout > the larger spiritual community that greater > emotional richness accompanies > development of consciousness. I dont know much > about tantra, but I gather > that tantrics regard the ability to maintain inner > silence as a great aid to > love making. > > Neuro-linquistic > programming (NLP) looks at these different states in > relationship to > the usefulness in a specific context. Their goal is > to be able to > shift fluidly between the options. I think they are > related to the > states produced by meditation. Where I differ with > traditional yogic > theory is that they seem to feel that you can't have > too much silence > along with activity. I think you can depending on > what you are doing. > > I agree with you, but I think that too much would > only be a temporary > state, due to inadequate integration. Also, the > people I know who seem to be > speaking from experience say that the whole > witnessing/silence thing is a > stage, and that silence is eventually perceived to > be full of dynamism. Im > a little out of my league discussing this, but the > point Im trying to make > is that there may be some undesirable aspects to > certain stages in the > development of consciousness, but these stages are > transitional, and as one > moves on, the undesirable aspects drop off and one > is grateful to have > persisted in the journey. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1298 - > Release Date: 2/25/2008 > 8:45 PM > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
