--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Chimps have forgiveness rituals???

The source is Peacemaking Among Primates by De Waal the bonobo expert.
 Most social primates have to have a way to make up to keep the
society together.  They will offer a hand to the mouth of the chimp
they harmed and this gives the chimp a chance to bite them.  If it is
taken gently all is forgiven.  He has a couple of books about chimp
culture that are great.  One of his points is that a lot of stuff
attributed to religion is hard wired from our primate past.


  Tell me more.  
> In an early attempt to make a religion out of the
> Jesus myth, a writer had Jesus kill a playmate at the
> age of three to show how miraculously macho he was. 
> That story was edited out later.
> 
> 
> --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick
> > Gillam" <jpgillam@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- curtisdeltablues" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is much more time spent on the miracles 
> > > > than any of [Jesus'] presentation of ethical
> > philosophy 
> > > > which he gets so much undeserved credit for IMO.
> >   
> > > 
> > > Way to slap down Jesus, Curtis! You made Him your
> > bitch!
> > > 
> > > Seriously, though, that one miracle - coming back
> > from 
> > > the dead - was a doozy, wasn't it? And the way it
> > came 
> > > right after his No. 1 ethical teaching to forgive
> > those who 
> > > hurt us. Kind of a powerful one-two punch, doncha
> > think?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Jesus is here, and he wants to resurrect
> > somebody!"
> > >     - Rumi
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Not a big Jesus guy.  His philosophy was not
> > original (even chimps
> > have forgiveness rituals)and the whole mythology was
> > a rehash of
> > precious culture's myths.  I enjoy reading the
> > Bible, but can hardly
> > believe this was the myth that sold so well in the
> > world out of all
> > the options.  Luck of the draw and the political
> > uses of early
> > Christianity as a unifier and stompdown tool I
> > guess.
> > 
> > Nice Rumi quote though.
> > 
> > My favorite Jesus quote is my original:
> > 
> > "Hey Jesus, since you've risen, how about getting me
> > a beer!"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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