Bonobo chimps are hilarious. They evolved in a region
with plenty of food so they are not very aggressive
and they screw at the drop of a hat (or in this case,
a banana)
 
--- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
> Mailander
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Chimps have forgiveness rituals???
> 
> The source is Peacemaking Among Primates by De Waal
> the bonobo expert.
>  Most social primates have to have a way to make up
> to keep the
> society together.  They will offer a hand to the
> mouth of the chimp
> they harmed and this gives the chimp a chance to
> bite them.  If it is
> taken gently all is forgiven.  He has a couple of
> books about chimp
> culture that are great.  One of his points is that a
> lot of stuff
> attributed to religion is hard wired from our
> primate past.
> 
> 
>   Tell me more.  
> > In an early attempt to make a religion out of the
> > Jesus myth, a writer had Jesus kill a playmate at
> the
> > age of three to show how miraculously macho he
> was. 
> > That story was edited out later.
> > 
> > 
> > --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick
> > > Gillam" <jpgillam@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > --- curtisdeltablues" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There is much more time spent on the
> miracles 
> > > > > than any of [Jesus'] presentation of ethical
> > > philosophy 
> > > > > which he gets so much undeserved credit for
> IMO.
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > Way to slap down Jesus, Curtis! You made Him
> your
> > > bitch!
> > > > 
> > > > Seriously, though, that one miracle - coming
> back
> > > from 
> > > > the dead - was a doozy, wasn't it? And the way
> it
> > > came 
> > > > right after his No. 1 ethical teaching to
> forgive
> > > those who 
> > > > hurt us. Kind of a powerful one-two punch,
> doncha
> > > think?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > "Jesus is here, and he wants to resurrect
> > > somebody!"
> > > >     - Rumi
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Not a big Jesus guy.  His philosophy was not
> > > original (even chimps
> > > have forgiveness rituals)and the whole mythology
> was
> > > a rehash of
> > > precious culture's myths.  I enjoy reading the
> > > Bible, but can hardly
> > > believe this was the myth that sold so well in
> the
> > > world out of all
> > > the options.  Luck of the draw and the political
> > > uses of early
> > > Christianity as a unifier and stompdown tool I
> > > guess.
> > > 
> > > Nice Rumi quote though.
> > > 
> > > My favorite Jesus quote is my original:
> > > 
> > > "Hey Jesus, since you've risen, how about
> getting me
> > > a beer!"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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