On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:09 PM, cardemaister wrote: > You seem to imply that e.g. in Patañjali's saMyama there is > vyutthaana. IMO, the description of saMyama in the first four suutras > of vibhuuti-paada doesn't seem to support that kind of view. > Furthermore: > > sarvaarthaikaagratayoH kSayodayau cittasya samaadhi-pariNaamaH > (*kSaya* of sarvaarthataa and *udaya* of ekaagrataa?)
In any dualistic style of meditation there is an inward stroke and an outward stroke, otherwise you're not merging with your "object". Of course in some instances you could merge and stay "merged". Keep in mind, not all shamatha or transcendence style meditators close their eyes and retreat. Some learn from the beginning to keep their eyes partially open, much like in some pictures of Shiva.
