--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:01 PM, cardemaister wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:04 AM, cardemaister wrote: > >> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 PM, cardemaister wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <yifuxero@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> 44. What is meant by restraint in the centre of the brow? The > >>>>>> left > >>>>>> and right in the central channel. > >>>>> > >>>>> Seems like the translator doesn't know Sanskrit syntax very > >>>>> well. The last word of that suutra is a compound word: > >>>>> > >>>>> savyaapasavyasauSumneSu (savya-apasavya-sauSumneSu). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Actually Mike is fluent in Sanskrit, although I never really liked > >>>> his > >>>> translation of the SS. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Have you got any favourite translation of the above suutra? > >> > >> > >> Shiva Sutras: The Supreme Awakening by Swami Lakshmanjoo > >> > >> He was the last living acharya of that tradition. > >> > > > > My favorite translation of III 45 goes like this: > > > > 3-45 Concentrating on the center within the nose, what use > > are the left and the right channels or suSumna? > > > > naasikaantarmadhyasaMyamaat kimatra savyaapasavyasauSumNeSu > > > > 3-45 Concentrating (saMyamaat: ~performing saMyama) on the center > > within the nose (naasikaa+antar-madhya), what use > > are (kim atra: what here?) the left (savya: iDaa?) and the right > > (apasavya: pin.galaa?) channels or suSumna (sauSumNeSu)? > > > > http://www.shaivam.org/ssshivasuutra.htm > > > As I believe I've explained here before, in an agama like this one, > samyama has a different meaning than it does in yoga-darshana. In > fact, many different technical terms have different meanings in > different darshanas or ways-of-seeing. > > In the samyama of this school, there is no outward stroke (vyutthana). >
You seem to imply that e.g. in Patañjali's saMyama there is vyutthaana. IMO, the description of saMyama in the first four suutras of vibhuuti-paada doesn't seem to support that kind of view. Furthermore: sarvaarthaikaagratayoH kSayodayau cittasya samaadhi-pariNaamaH (*kSaya* of sarvaarthataa and *udaya* of ekaagrataa?)
