---You still haven't provided any evidence (aside from your usual appeal to dead Authorities) that Self-Realization eliminates suffering DURING one's physical lifetime.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I take issue with the Neo-Advaitin claim that > > suffering is eliminated. > > > Well, I wasn't referring to 'Neo-Awaitin' claims > - whatever they may be. But it's a fact that all > but one system of Indian philosophy agrees with > the Sankhya notion that life is essentially marked > by suffering, with the exception of Mimamsa. > > This notion is based on the doctrine espoused by > the historical Buddha, Shakya the Muni, and outlined > in the 'Twelvefold Chain of Causation' and in the > 'Four Noble Truths'. > > It's a fact that Patanjali begins the Yoga Sutras > by declaring that life is essentially suffering > caused by ignorance. But, the practice of any > of the limbs of yoga does not bring the liberation. > > > The main problem with Neo-Advaitinism is that > > is allows for no gradations or progressions > > of evolution. It seems: one has just to > > "get it"; and with an AHA!; all sufferings > > vanish. Remarkable! > > > It's very remarkable, because apparently all we > have to do is *realize* the truth of the non-dual. > It's not a deep philosophical doctrine, in fact, > it's dirt simple: > > 'There are not two; there is only One'. > > Only a sophist, a deluded, deep thinker would even > entertain the idea of a complicated metaphysics > that proposed a multitude of realities. > > Only a rascally group of city-slicker priests would > dream up a fanciful cosmos filled with various > spirits, jinns, and demons all hanging from a > Jambudvipa tree, all trying to confuse the poor > people and get in their pant pockets. > > It is an 'AHA' moment, as you say; it is a > *realization* that there is only One Self, not a > multitude of individual soul-monads, re-incarnating > in various forms including humans, and sometimes, > dwarfs. >
