--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Richard, > > You are just a few pints short of genius.
Only a few? That's something, let me try and get a hlf-pint closer. > Deutche's model would include a universe (billions actually) where 12 > order karma is very apparent and proven. So your research problem is > not to disprove collective karma al la 12th order, but only to prove > that this is ONE universe in which it doesn't exist. In that light, it > seems rather trivial. The ultimate conclusions: it doesn't exists > here, but does exist there. So it exists. Maybe not. The thing about parallel universes is that they contain all *possible* alternatives. If karma isn't actually possible in this one it won't appear in any of them. Agreed? If it does exist then I would think it would be in all of them as it seems quite fundamental. > On another note, I don't get your necessity to pin morality and > intervention of gods for cause and effect to occur. I don't, I think cause and effect happens independent of both of those things. But that's a belief I would think it's impossible to prove to anyones satisfaction unless unambiguous predictions are involved. That a ball > bounces back off a wall does not necessitate gods nor morality. Do > this, get that result. That seems to be the whole crux behind science > isnt it -- understanding what happens when you do x y or z. Or all > together? > > It seem a bit of a flying leap to suddenly say, we expect NO effect > from human action. I don't think I did, I'm just interested in the large scale country karma, like the one in the TM press-release that called for funds for a yagya for Germany to head off some bad karma. I was hoping for a follow up and maybe for the good people of germany to have refused to cough up so we could see what (if anything) befell their land. I predict nothing would have happened here but I guess even if it had it could've been explained by me as just a natural event. Seems that the small scale stuff you mentioned is just stuff happening but you call it karma instead. > But thats why you are two pints short of genius, and I am lacking. Don't worry, I'll buy you a drink, that'll cheer you up.