On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Peter <drpetersutp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> >
> > The arrogant bias against surgery has destined many
> > individuals within the TMO, and
> > without,  to death.  Do you think these now-deceased
> > persons made some sort of point by
> > refusing surgery, and then dying ?    Apparently there are
> > some huge egos among us who aim
> > for fame from a non-surgical 'cure'.  Wow !
>
> I don't see it as arrogance, more fear (which could be seen as a very
> subtle arrogance, I guess) from ignorance and being perpetually bombarded
> with disinformation about "natural" cures. Once tumors have formed, short of
> a miracle, they have to be cutout or destroyed through radiation or
> chemotherapy. After that, perhaps a healthy diet could have some preventive
> impact on future reoccurrence, but cancer has a strong genetic component
> that no diet will directly impact.
>
> There's a bias in the TMO regarding allopathic medicine. It was recently
> posted here about the Purusha guy who contracted a respiratory infection
> while in India for Maharishi's funeral. He came back to the states, didn't
> do anything other than meditate and take some herbs, developed secondary
> bacterial infections in his lungs and died. This is incredibly stupid. What,
> did he think antibiotics would "ruin" his changes for Enlightenment?
>

My friend is waiting for his appointment with the prostate cancer specialist
on 9 January 2009.  There's nothing wrong with looking at all the
alternatives.  This sort of surgery is not like a root canal.  It's a pretty
messy recovery period of about a year.

The first response is, is there an alternative route.  A bunch of
alternatives were thrown at me in public and I'm still having to fight off
well meaning but off the mark nutrition and faith healing suggestions.  But
it's looking more and more like the robotic surgery, if available for my
friend (if the cancer has not spread), is the way to go.

But that's not the end of it.  I received an interesting PDF file from Johns
Hopkins urging men to get a second and third opinion.  It turns out that the
biopsy report is very subject to interpretation and one pathologist will see
cancer all over the place and another will not see any.  So making sure the
diagnosis is correct is in the best interest of my good buddy.  The
diagnosis will determine the course of treatment and obviously the outcome.

Fear?  Obviously my friend is fearful and I am fearful for him.  But the
fact is this appears to be a less cut (pardon the pun) and dried situation,
according to Hopkins, so it is worth the investigation.  I don't at all see
my asking if there were a nutritional cure as a bad, proud or magical
thinking question.  I asked, I got the answers, I investigated the answers,
they were wanting and are discarded.  I'm sending my friend my progress as I
investigate this for him and he agrees which my assessment.  Now if my
friend had Gleason 2-5, I would strongly urge him to try an alternate cure
for a few months while being monitored for progress of the cancer.

I can tell you that /I/ learned about 2 decades ago to cut out the
foolishness about staying in bed and meditating extra because of a "cold".
I was on business in San Francisco.  I had this infection in the lungs.  I
stayed in for two days and meditated.  My boss called me up and asked me
what the Hell I was doing.  I told him and he told me that we don't do this
sort of thing on company time.  He told me to tell the hotel (it was the
Hyatt in Union Square) to call a doctor for me.  The doctor came to my room,
diagnosed me with a pretty serious case of bronchitis, prescribed some
antiobiotics.  I had the prescription filled and continued meditating.  It
took two more days before I could go do my business.  For about 10 years I
ran a tendency to get bronchitis and I've been very careful since then to go
to the doctor, fast.  OTOH if I can tell that I've just got a cold, I'll do
the extra meditations but I'll make sure I call the doctor.  If I'm told "we
have a lot of that going around, wait a few days then call us back" then
I'll do that.

I don't think that one should fear or avoid death.  But life is a sacred
gift that we hold onto as long as possible.  Now I have had friends on THMD
and THP who have died under circumstances where I think they should have
sought real medical health first and foremost.  I'll just state that as my
opinion of events and leave it at that.  Doctors don't save lives after all,
they prolong them.

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