Vaj wrote:
>
> I've stayed out of this jyotish test question, but what I'd offer up 
> as evidence that Jyotish is an actual "consciousness-based" reality 
> that can determine physical outcomes is that one or more of the 
> non-believers, say Curtis or Barry or whoever who wants to have their 
> limits stretched, should have a Jyotish reading done by Yogi Karvay.
>
> Yogi Karvay asked for no birth data. He places his attention on you, 
> goes into samadhi and as he comes in and out of his transcendence, he 
> reads off all the planets, to the degree, as the actually appeared in 
> the sky and gives your exact birth date and time without ever knowing 
> anything about you. I know because not only has he done mine, he's 
> also done friends of mine. Spot on every time. He predicted Nehru's 
> life when he was in jail and it all turned out as predicted. And Nehru 
> hated astrologers. Depending on special circumstances he may or may 
> not to do detailed predictions. But suffice to say, his descriptions 
> of my life literally took my breath away.
>
> After he does your reading, he'll initiate you into the sadhana to 
> gain the siddhi as well.
Karve asked for my birth date and time as he has others.  It is really a 
mental trick.  You memorize some charts throughout time and you'll will 
generally know the positions of most planets.  The one that is almost 
impossible to do is the Moon.  And I don't think he ever mentioned the 
position of the Moon in my chart.   You can also from time and location 
get a good idea of what the ascendant also aided by the appearance of 
the person.   What Karve did well was his interpretation.  He was spot 
on with what my chart brought to me and the disappointments I'd had in 
life.   Many of the amateurs had missed those things.

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