On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:16 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

I've stayed out of this jyotish test question, but what I'd offer up
as evidence that Jyotish is an actual "consciousness-based" reality
that can determine physical outcomes is that one or more of the non-
believers, say Curtis or Barry or whoever who wants to have their
limits stretched, should have a Jyotish reading done by Yogi Karvay.

I did a series of readings from some Maharishi Joitish guys as well as
Chakrapani back in the day.  They were cold readers mostly, giving
"you'll be rich someday" predictions.  So what does this guy charge? I
would love to get my lack of belief shaken if it didn't cost too much.
 His website is down www.UniversalSociety.org

Yeah I had a Chakrapani reading and others as well. It was like listening to the karmic weather. My take on these "standard jyotishis" for lack of a better word is that they rely on predictive rules from previous "Yogi Karvay's" who wrote down their insights based on their omniscience. These guys are just following the rules they learned from these systems and throwing in a little bit of intuition. Standard Parasara-style jyotish: learning and memorizing the rules.

Same with the Surya Samhita Jyotishis, which are often written on palms leaves and hundreds of years old: these had to be written by someone who was omniscient in some way, there's simply no way around it. How else could they just know these things about you? I certainly can't think of a way. In one case a female friend, alleged to be a reincarnation of a Hindu saint, but an American, went to a Surya Samhita reader. After going thru the various criteria, he arrived at her "leaf". Now she had presented with her "Swami" name and no longer used her birth name. The leaf had her name in English on it. I shit you not. How is that possible?

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After he does your reading, he'll initiate you into the sadhana to
gain the siddhi as well.

Could you do it for us?  Do you have the sidhi?  I think it is cool
that you found someone you were impressed with and would be interested
in reading about him.

I have not practiced the sadhana and in fact I didn't even want it. He INSISTED I have it, so I sat there while he initiated me into the sadhana.

What I'd really like is a mole at the third eye like John Lennon had in those pictures inside the White Album, but so far that siddhi has alluded me.


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