--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On Feb 17, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote: > > >> What post or posts are you referring to Randy? > > > > I am referring to any and all posts where you seem to indicate that > > TM has no validity. > > I've never said that Randy. I do and will respond to posts as I please > and if they contain inaccurate information on any number of subjects, > I may respond, as I please with what I believe to be true. It's > important to me, and I hope it is to you as well, to see that > historical record is set straight and that means if I feel like > responding to some misinformed notion or casually passed down myth, I > may post what I believe is correct. I will not lie for you, sorry. If > that bothers, you, then you might want to avoid my posts or this list > then, but that's your decision Randy. > > There are TM lists which say only nice things, like the Fairfield > Kiosk site. That sounds like it might be more up your alley. > > > You either say it or infer it very often. > > Look Vaj, I don't want to seem like a "TM is the answer" robot. I'm > > not. But after practicing it for 38 years, I can say without > > hesitation that the depth of my experience is profound and therefore > > to me, TM is as valid a practice as any other spiritual program, and > > at least for me, better. So this is why I am tired of you constantly > > trying to prove that it is less than Buddhism, tantra etc. You are > > entitled to your opinion and I respect it, but at the same time why > > can't you respect the experiences and opinions of those of us who > > have found everything that Maharishi promised through it????? > > > Well I don't think that's the issue. People write things. I respond. > If what they say is false, I may respond with the sweet or sour truth. > If people don't like what I say, they should respond without ad > hominem and debate the question at hand, but they should have some > idea what they're talking about, not uncritically acquired beliefs. > > And I'm glad TM worked for you, I think that's great. I also, as I've > said before, had relatively good experiences with TM (but I think you > might have missed that post). I also shared what some of them were. I > really don't buy that there are people who "found everything that > Maharishi promised through [TM]", but I do believe there are people > who do believe that. I have just not seen evidence that shows me, > based on my own intuition and experience, that this is the case. I am > open to the fact that I may be wrong. > > The other issue is one of damage to people. I won't go into this in > detail, but for me, it's really the crux of the matter. To even > mention it here, is to set off a firestorm of ad hominem and negative > posts. But if it does happen (it has) it should be able to be > discussed openly and freely so that others need not suffer.
Vaj, You again have invalidated me and people like me with good experiences with TM. You mentioned above that you don't really buy that there are people who have found everything that Maharishi promised through TM, even though they believe they have. Again you are entitled to your opinion, but guess what. I don' just "Believe" that I have experienced everything that Maharishi promised, I have actually experienced it! Why can't you accept that???? You inability to accept this show how closed minded and opinionated you are. I don't need to go the more "positive" TM forums, I can take criticism and negativity toward TM and the organization. I may even be the first person to acknowledge some of it. But when someone like me comes along and says "hey look TM works for me", you can't accept it. Thats my point >
