--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutp...@...> wrote: > > Hey, I like Vaj. He and I have completely different takes on MMY, but so what. Like the black and white cookie: world peace. And who is this Randy Melzer anyway? Is he a Hare Krishna spy? How do we know for sure?
Hi Randy, Welcome to the group. And we know you're not really a Hare Krsna. Peter was just making an insider joke here (but not at your expense) so don't take offence. In reality, Vaj is our actual Hare Krsna on the forum and most of us know this by now. Don't get too stirred up here when he attacks Maharishi and TM. He's just doing his job as he was instructed and as he agreed. Vaj came here at the invitation of Kirk Bernhardt after they met at a Dzogchen retreat. Because he spoke the language of Dzogchen and Tantra, Kirk thought Vaj was a Tantric-Dzogchen practitioner. Since Kirk was getting into conceptual tussles with some people here, he decided he could use someone with a similar background to back him up in discussions. So he invited Vaj to the group to shake everyone up starting with "Hey, look at my little friend, Vaj, curled up here in my travel bag. Isn't he really cool man? Don't worry! He really likes being with people. He'll just slither up around your neck and wrap around it with a flickering kiss. You'll be like Lord Shiva wearing his garland of serpents." So he talked and people were willing to listen for a while, entertained by the little whispering Vaj. What Kirk didn't realize was that Vaj was not the strident Buddhist he appeared to be. Vaj was actually a Gaudiya Vaishnava disciple of one of the Hare Krsna ritvik-gurus who was still active here in America. Vaj was performing a task requested by his initiating guru, Srila Vijayadarshana dasa Goswami. The request was for Vaj to follow in the lead of prior Vaishnava followers to disrupt and refute the demonic "Mayavadins", of whom they considered Maharishi to be the biggest. (Mayavadin is a Vaishnava term denoting someone believing everything is illusion.) The basic technique of this practice is for the opponent (Vaj) to admix with the forum as a person with similar experiences. After people become comfortable with his flickering tongue, he then gradually introduces doubts and rebuttals from a tradition that is somewhat similar (Buddhist) but which criticizes the one in which he is temporarily positioned (Advaita Vedanta). The sole purpose is to unlatch people from their familiarity with their own experiences (i.e. introducing doubt about everything) and then offering them a variant framework for understanding. The key here is not to be too precise but rather give generic notions of "superior" states and stations of spiritual development that are unavailable, except from another tradition. The ironic premise of it all is hilarious. Serpentine Vaj is actually using an anti-cult deprogramming technique to free us from ourselves. First by trying to displace our belief in our direct with inveterate doubt (doubt for its own sake) and then secondly by offering us a way out through another path (any other path). Isn't it amazing what techniques the Hare Krsna devotees have learned from their anti-cult opponents? So this is how Vaj developed and grew here on the forum. Vaj was just a little flickering coil at first but over time has become an Anti-Maharishi first responder, gigantic and ponderous a hulk of vituperative antagonism. However, please don't think badly about Vaj and his task here on FFL. He really loves us. He just wants to separate us from our delusion about illusion meaning about Maharishi and TM. He vowed it to his guru you know like words of honor between a knight and his liege lord. Samaya Jah Jah Jah