hats off to you emptybill! brilliant, entertaining and informative, all without sacrificing any of the three-
i guess the reason Vaj doesn't post on here -all- the time is he is busy soliciting donations at the airport, and dancing on the sidewalk. cheers! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" <emptyb...@...> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > Hey, I like Vaj. He and I have completely different takes on MMY, but > so what. Like the black and white cookie: world peace. And who is this > Randy Melzer anyway? Is he a Hare Krishna spy? How do we know for sure? > > > > > Hi Randy, > > Welcome to the group. And we know you're not really a Hare Krsna. > > Peter was just making an insider joke here (but not at your expense) so > don't take offence. In reality, Vaj is our actual Hare Krsna on the > forum and most of us know this by now. Don't get too stirred up here > when he attacks Maharishi and TM. He's just doing his job as he was > instructed and as he agreed. > > > > Vaj came here at the invitation of Kirk Bernhardt after they met at a > Dzogchen retreat. Because he spoke the language of Dzogchen and Tantra, > Kirk thought Vaj was a Tantric-Dzogchen practitioner. Since Kirk was > getting into conceptual tussles with some people here, he decided he > could use someone with a similar background to back him up in > discussions. So he invited Vaj to the group to shake everyone up > starting with "Hey, look at my little friend, Vaj, curled up here in > my travel bag. Isn't he really cool man? Don't worry! He really > likes being with people. He'll just slither up around your neck and > wrap around it with a flickering kiss. You'll be like Lord Shiva > wearing his garland of serpents." So he talked and people were > willing to listen for a while, entertained by the little whispering Vaj. > > What Kirk didn't realize was that Vaj was not the strident Buddhist > he appeared to be. Vaj was actually a Gaudiya Vaishnava disciple of one > of the Hare Krsna ritvik-gurus who was still active here in America. Vaj > was performing a task requested by his initiating guru, Srila > Vijayadarshana dasa Goswami. The request was for Vaj to follow in the > lead of prior Vaishnava followers to disrupt and refute the demonic > "Mayavadins", of whom they considered Maharishi to be the > biggest. (Mayavadin is a Vaishnava term denoting someone believing > everything is illusion.) > > The basic technique of this practice is for the opponent (Vaj) to admix > with the forum as a person with similar experiences. After people become > comfortable with his flickering tongue, he then gradually introduces > doubts and rebuttals from a tradition that is somewhat similar > (Buddhist) but which criticizes the one in which he is temporarily > positioned (Advaita Vedanta). The sole purpose is to unlatch people from > their familiarity with their own experiences (i.e. introducing doubt > about everything) and then offering them a variant framework for > understanding. The key here is not to be too precise but rather give > generic notions of "superior" states and stations of spiritual > development that are unavailable, except from another tradition. > > The ironic premise of it all is hilarious. Serpentine Vaj is actually > using an anti-cult deprogramming technique to free us from ourselves. > First by trying to displace our belief in our direct experience with > inveterate doubt (doubt for its own sake) and then secondly by offering > us a way out through another path (any other path). Isn't it amazing > what techniques the Hare Krsna devotees have learned from their > anti-cult opponents? > > So this is how Vaj developed and grew here on the forum. Vaj was just a > little flickering coil at first but over time has become an > Anti-Maharishi first responder, gigantic and ponderous a hulk of > vituperative antagonism. > > However, please don't think badly about Vaj and his task here on > FFL. He really loves us. He just wants to separate us from our delusion > about illusion meaning about Maharishi and TM. > > He vowed it to his guru you know like words of honor between a > knight and his liege lord. > > > > Samaya Jah Jah Jah >
