--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <nelsonriddle2001@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So this post is a troll in that I am offering
> > > people an opportunity to WEIGH IN on this
> > > generalized subject. If you feel like it, WEIGH
> > > IN and tell us whether you feel that your opinion,
> > > or that of your preferred spiritual teacher or
> > > spiritual tradition, **IS** "better," "more
> > > correct," or "more authoritative" than anyone
> > > else's.
> > >
> > > IMO, it's OK to believe this. The whole *history*
> > > of spiritual belief and spiritual practice is based
> > > on the belief that one POV or opinion is "better,"
> > > "more correct," or "more authoritative" than any
> > > other. It's OK to believe that this is a forum
> > > NOT composed of equals, and that some posters
> > > here -- and their opinions -- **ARE** "better,"
> > > "more correct," and "more authoritative" than
> > > others.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I don't personally believe that
> > > believing this makes it so. Me, I tend to believe
> > > that IT'S ALL JUST OPINION, and that
> > > none of those opinions are any "better," "more
> > > correct," or "more authoritative" than any other.
> > >
> > > But that's just my OPINION.
> > >
> > > What's yours?
> > >
> > > WEIGH IN. If you feel like it.
> >
> > snip,
> > Wouldn't an opinion based on sufficient experience and
> > observation be as good as a fact?
>
> Assuming this is not a troll in itself :-),
> I'll WEIGH IN.
>
> I don't see how anyone could assume that.
> Although this is Just My Opinion, here are
> my reasons for holding it.
>
> 1. Define "sufficient" experience. Have you
> ever seen those consumer-protection TV shows
> where they take a car with one fouled spark
> plug that would cost $5 to replace to 30
> different auto repair shops and get estimates
> from all of them? ALL of the repair shops are
> "factory certified." ALL of the mechanics are
> "suitably experienced." And yet the estimates
> come back ranging in cost from $500 to $5000
> needed to repair the problem. Which one of
> these opinions is the "fact?"
>
> 2. What would "experience and observation"
> have to do with "fact" if it doesn't take into
> account the point of view and state of consci-
> ousness of the observer?
>
snip,
Curious- are facts dependent on pov- I would have thought they were not open
to debate.
I notice that when I go out without heavy enough clothes in zero (F) weather
I can be at risk of freezing and, I believe my experience points out a fact
and, I believe in the same situation, you will freeze regardless of your point
of view.
Typing with two fingers, I probably should know better than cross swords with
an expert. :)
