--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <richardhughes103@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" <guyfawkes91@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I see the TMO is starting to get heavy with people who point out its > > > > rather obvious failings. YouTube has been told to take down the famous > > > > Berlin clip of Schiffgens making an idiot of himself. > > > > > > > > http://nosedef.blogspot.com/2009/04/david-lynch-forces-my-video-of-him.html > > > > > > > > This isn't the only recent case of the TMO getting heavy with people. > > > > My guess is that Bevan is the driving force behind the new heavy handed > > > > attitude to detractors since he's basically a bully and enjoys that > > > > sort of thing. > > > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > > > > > The Schiffgens clip was an absolutely cringe inducing performance worthy > > > the Gong Show. Lynch was heroic. He did his best to treat Schiffgens with > > > respect and well as keep an angry mob from storming the stage. Bless his > > > heart. > > > > > > The TM critics have always had plenty of ammo available to dissuade > > > people from starting TM. This clip is just one more bomb in the arsenal. > > > They will persist and may dissuade a few here and there, but they will > > > not prevail. People who want to start TM will start regardless of any > > > amount of dirty laundry the TM critics unload. It might even make some > > > folks curious enough to start TM just to see what all the fuss was. > > > > > > It's much more exhilarating for TM critics to say, "Hey, look at that > > > idiot, Schiffgens, if you do TM you might end up like HIM," than say, > > > "Lynch has the patience of a saint, if you do TM you might end up like > > > HIM." > > > > > > In either case, it is a mistake to judge the value of TM by the actions > > > of an idiot or a saint. There is no measure of idiocy or sainthood > > > before, during or after TM. Whether we witness the actions of Schiffgens > > > the buffoon, Lynch the angel of mercy or Bevan the fascist bully, TM will > > > prevail as wholly separate from them. > > > > > > The point really is that these rajas are the top men in > > the TMO and if you're selling a technique you claim to > > be the ultimate in personal development and it turns out > > that the people that have been doing it for donkeys' years > > are a bunch of insane weirdos what are you going to think? > > At least that it isn't all it's cracked up to be. > > > > It's all very well just TMing and keeping your distance > > from the movement but would you have learned in the first > > place if you knew it was going to end up with this global > > monarchy of dubious bullshit? > > > I've have two compartments in my head. One for TM and one for the TMO. Being > unable to fit the TMO square peg into the TM round hole, does not detract > from either the peg or the hole. It's only a bother when you try to do the > impossible. Relax. Like it or not the TMO will always be the standard-bearer > for TM. It's what we've got. Get used to it, or feel miserable about it. Your > choice.
Oh, I don't feel miserable. I think it's funny that a group can be so out of touch with reality. What annoys me is I used to want to create the same reality they did, but it changed out of all recognition while I watched. I don't think the ME works and looking back I can see the TMO's delusion and lies, unwitting or not, for what they are. If I could have my life again I would still join up and work with the TMO as it was a valuable lesson in how group-think can influence people to think and behave in ways they wouldn't normally do. Not many have the chance to see a real bonafide cult close up. It was a priviledge to be there at the end when Marshy's every mad rant was broadcast daily. And to have been on the inside during "scorpionland"! Seeing a bunch of hopelessly devoted friends treated like shit sure sobered me up. I think TM may prevail *in spite* of the TMO but only if they continue to hide what they're really like from the world. But having read your other posts about the TMO I think you have a somewhat rose-tinted view of it. Or maybe you weren't looking out for bad stuff like I was. It always fascinated me that people would excuse all sorts of outrageous, even illegal behaviour. Partly they were scared of rocking the boat but mainly because they thought Marshy could do no wrong and that reality was sometimes out of step with the movement. Someone said that to me once, seriously. Funny eh?
