--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> You odious fucking clod.
>
> You didn't address a single issue.
>
> Money.
>
> The effects of psychological abuse by a rapist.
>
> Elitist sense of empowerment.
>
> Your open denial of the issues and attempt to make this about "injustice" and
> trying to frame Polanski as a victim is all any parent would need to know to
> decide to keep their kids away from you.
>
> What next: defend Hitler because he didn't have a fair trial?
>
> And you, an ex-pat, by this foul act of siding with a rapist on a
> technicality, underline the notion that you also are on the run like
> Polanski. Are you? What did you do that you don't come back to America to
> face?
>
> Fucking coward. Address the issues.
>
> Edg
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Raise your hands: How many knew that me "chumming
> > the waters" on this subject would bring out the
> > moralistic sharkprude in Edg? :-) :-) :-)
> >
> > I said *nothing* supporting or excusing Polanski's
> > actions with the girl. As he tends to do, Edg pro-
> > jected his own extremely unbalanced and emotional
> > issues with this subject onto me.
> >
> > But this is *exactly* the reaction I was trying to
> > provoke by spreading a little chum on the waters.
> > It's not a rational reaction. It's the reaction of
> > a fundamentalist wannabe nazi who reserves the right
> > not only to judge others according to his own stan-
> > dards, but to *punish* them according to what *he*
> > thinks they deserve. THAT is what is going on with
> > Roman Polanski in the press, and on this forum.
> >
> > I merely was pointing out that with regard to extra-
> > dition, he is trying to avoid a *broken* American
> > justice system. His defense attorneys negotiated a
> > plea bargain with prosecutors and were told that
> > the judge signed off on it. As a result, he pleaded
> > guilty to one of the charges. *Then* he read in an
> > interview the judge gave to a newspaper that he
> > intended to not honor the deal. In recent develop-
> > ments, the prosecutors on the case have admitted
> > that *after* the deal was made they tried to sway
> > the judge into reneging on it.
> >
> > If the original plea bargain had been honored,
> > none of this would be happening. When it became
> > obvious that the entire plea bargain was a lie,
> > and probably had been one since the beginning, he
> > left the country. THAT is what the extradition is
> > all about -- American prosecutors still pissed off
> > that he revealed *their* lies and duplicity and
> > desire for moralistic vengeance.
> >
> > As for the original case, I would have been happy
> > to see him receive the same penalty as any other
> > person convicted in California of sex with a minor.
> > That was the only charge that he was convicted of.
> > If the judge had honored the plea bargain, none of
> > this would even be an issue. He didn't, and 30 years
> > later moralistic prudes like Edg are still using it
> > as fuel for their faux outrage and an outlet for
> > their everpresent anger.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <dhamiltony2k5@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, technicalities.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh come now, not just because I am a conservative meditator,
> > > > > this one is pretty clear. The guy is a fugitive from justice...
> > > >
> > > > I think the clear pursuit of revenge and politics
> > > > in this case (the AP earlier reported that Switzer-
> > > > land arrested him in exchange for the US laying off
> > > > of Swiss bank UBS), is because the guy is a fugitive
> > > > from *injustice*.
> > > >
> > > > He was screwed over by the American legal system,
> > > > which promised him a deal if he'd only confess to one
> > > > of the charges, and then reneged on the deal.
> > > >
> > > > So Polanski did what the US legal system cannot and
> > > > will not abide. He proved exactly how impotent it
> > > > is, and just bailed. THAT is why they want him back.
> > > > It has nothing to do with the original case; it's
> > > > about him showing the world that the American system
> > > > of justice can be blown off as the joke it is.
> > > >
> > > > > A higher thinking and spiritual society of justice has
> > > > > its moral play here.
> > > >
> > > > Such a system DOES NOT EXIST. You are delusional.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Isn't any woman here going to kick Turq's ass on this topic?
> > > Here's a guy who openly says he sees no wrong in hitting on
> > ? much younger women defending Polanski's similar immorality,
> > > and no one is writing about the psychology of a young girl
> > > and how much freedom of choice we allow youngsters who are
> > > not fully formed intellectually, socially, psychologically,
> > > and on and on.
> > >
> > > What parent would want to have Polanski target their daughter?
> > > Who thinks a young girl is "old enough" to handle this challenge
> > > of an older, rich, powerful, famous, and predatorily sexually
> > > aggressive and deviant perpetrator?
> > >
> > > There is a huge issue that is not talked about: money -- anyone
> > > who was in the same situation as Polanski but without the funds
> > > would be far more likely to end up doing hard time. In today's
> > > world, we see again and again that the rich just do what they
> > > want and hire lawyers if someone complains.
> > >
> > > Tell us, Turq, did that guy who kidnapped the eleven year old
> > > girl and raped her and gave her two kids and kept them all in
> > > a backyard/psychological prison for 18 years do anything wrong
> > > in your eyes? It was polyamory, right?
> > >
> > > This is not about religious morality -- it is about psychological
> > > morality. What Polanski did was skew that girl's life FOR
> > > FUCKING EVER, and he did it mindfully. I say jail the shit
> > > for the rest of his life and see how well he does at rejecting
> > > the advances from much more powerful men.
> > >
> > > Edg
> >
>
