--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <j_alexander_stanley@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with Turq and others that he got a bad deal. > > > > After drugging a 13 year old girl, eating her out, and > > fucking her vaginally, he shot his load into her asshole > > and only served 42 days in jail before escaping to 30 > > years of freedom in France. Yeah, real bad deal. > > Whenever I find myself shocked by the amount > of judgmentalism and indulgence in revenge > fantasies in long-term TMers, I just remember > that they are the products of a religion that > teaches that genocide is an appropriate punish- > ment for kidnapping a woman, and not even raping > her.
Delusional and sociopathic. Let's remember, first of all, how this Polanski discussion started: a post from Shemp informing us that TMO poster boy David Lynch had signed a Free Polanski petition. Second, the most fervent long-term TMer on FFL, Nabby, also wants Lynch "left alone." Third, the post Barry quotes as an example of his "revenge fantasy" thesis is from Alex, who is not a long-term TMer. Fourth, none of the long-term TMers here who think Polanski should have to face the music are TMO-bots into TMO-style Hinduism. Fifth, both the long-term TMers and the former TMers here who have expressed an opinion are split just about down the middle on the issue. There's no trend either way in either group. The only *consistent* trend is among the women here, all four of whom who have spoken up think Polanski should be extradited. Only two are long-term TMers that we know of (Meow13's TMer status isn't clear; Sal's a former TMer). Bottom line, of those who have expressed an opinion, FFL *as a whole* reflects the situation among the public generally: positions on the issue cut across practically every social and political line, with the possible exception of women with feminist leanings. In other words, there is zero basis for attributing a predominance of anti-Polanski sentiment to the long- term TMers on FFL. (It would be interesting to know how it shakes out among long-term TMers in Fairfield, given Lynch's position. What percentage of them have aligned themselves with Lynch? I'd be willing to bet they're split too.) OK, that's the delusional part, or one aspect of it, at any rate. The sociopathic element is Barry's notion that wanting wrongdoers to be punished is a "revenge fantasy." In Barry's ideal world, it seems that being held accountable for one's actions is a Bad Thing. We know this already regarding Barry's attitude toward his own behavior; now we know he extends it to child rapists as well. Does he draw any lines at all, or does he apply it across the board? Does Barry feel that there is no deterrent value whatsoever to imposing sanctions for criminal behavior? His claim that wanting wrongdoers to pay some penalty is nothing more than a "revenge fantasy" would seem to indicate he does. Except that on both counts, Barry hasn't been consistent (surprise!). For example, among his ideas for election reform: "Make vote tampering and voter disenfranchisement a more serious crime, punishable by a fine of $10,000 *per instance* to the state that allows it to happen.... "Punish larger-scale vote fraud and voter intimidation or disenfranchisement by calling it (and prosecuting it) as what it is -- treason. Make the penalty for keeping more than 10 Americans from voting life imprisonment, with no possibility of parole." (Not to mention his fanatical obsession with my post count and shrieks of anguish when, awhile back, I was not punished for accidentally overposting by one, nor his exultation when I recently *was* banned for a week for making 51 posts. Nor am I the only one whose banning made Barry happy. Talk about "revenge fantasies"!) I'll leave in the rest of Barry's post for folks to laugh at; in light of the points above, the absurdity of his whole rant could hardly be more obvious. > Look up the Ramayana. THAT is the story of Rama > and Sita and Ravana. To punish Ravana for making > off with his wife, Rama ordered his *entire tribe* > (which would have been the entire population of > Sri Lanka at the time, numbering in the tens of > thousands) to be killed by Hanuman and his duti- > ful "dharma warriors." > > Great lesson to teach people. And on this forum > we see the fruits of teaching it. > > In Hinduism, revenge and the desire for it is > actually presented as a Good Thing, the pursuit > of dharma. It's in the same ballpark as the > revenge fantasies we see in the Old Testament, > with whole populations and whole cities being > wiped out for one person's "sin." > > What barbarism. What indulgence in the lower > emotions and in self importance. And these people > have the chutzpah to think of themselves as "more > evolved" than other religions or other seekers.
