--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On Dec 23, 2009, at 3:49 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:37 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote: > > > > > > > Consciously and with full free choice you decided to join a cult, > > > > one that was largely of your own making. > > > > > > Oh? I created the TMO? Strike one. > > > > Actually, yes, you did. It was a creation in your own mind...as well as > > those that insisted upon making the organisation surrounding TM a cult. > > > > You and people like Nabby. > > LOL. That's funny. > > > > > > > > > > You could have stuck with just doing TM twice a day for 15 minutes > > > > without getting involved in the TMO. And guess what? You wouldn't > > > > have had much to complain about. > > > > > > And you are omniscient, so you know what my experience was and what > > > it would be? You suck as a mind reader Shemp. Strike Two. > > > > > > > Actually, I do. If you did only TM twice a day and did it properly, I as a > > TM teacher had instructions for you that would have dealt with pretty much > > every experience. > > > > Instead, you chose to go the route of cult member and joined the TMO to do > > God knows what. > > > > Off the program. You were doing something but it wasn't the TM Program. You > > were doing Cult TM or Guru TM, but not TM. > > > > Your free choice. Live with it. > > Actually my TM practice was fine. It's just that it got better after I got > more skillful instructions. > > And no the canned checking procedure did not work for everybody. Too > mechanical. It's one of the big flaws in TM instruction IMO. > > > > > > > But the above story-telling you engage in reveals much: firstly, it > > > > was just that: a story. > > > > > > The assumption at the time was: if someone on Purusha told you this, > > > they had the inside scoop. I did not assume then, like I would now, > > > that they were probably lying. > > > > > > > Wrong assumption. But thank you for acknowledging that it was an assumption > > on your part. > > > > Congratulations, Vaj, you are on the first step towards being deprogrammed. > > The point is, the core people lacked integrity. It was only a matter of time > till (many of us) figured out it was rotten to the core. Even the founder > lacked integretity. After that, if you had integretity, IMO, you left. No > need to look back or imagine the specialness of TM, the TMSP or the special > checking" BS. > > > > > > > Secondly, it had nothing to do with TM. > > > > > > Of course it did. If Maharishi could be wrapped like a mummy and go > > > into a continuum a silence, i, his humble student would one day > > > receive the SPECIAL technique and be able to do the same. It was only > > > a matter of time. Strike three. > > > > > > > Listen to you: Maharishi "wrapped like a mummy". You believed that crap? > > The people on purusha didn't use the word mummy, I did. I was some sort of > special way he was wrapped. > > > > > And kept believing it for HOW long? > > Not for long. It was right before I said "screw this org". > > > > > I'll bet you even perpetuated the lie by telling OTHERS the same story, > > didn't you Vaj? > > No. I only asked people if they had heard of it. I wondered why I hadn't > heard it before, like anyone would. I knew well real yogis could go into such > states for as long as they chose, and I'd witnessed such things. I guess it > boils down to your own level of experience really. But by the time I'd heard > about the level of credibility for both TM and it's org had already run quite > thin. > > > > > And you wanted some sort of shortcut, some sort of special technique that > > would get you to heaven like a "get out of jail free" card. > > No, that's not what I wanted. > > > > > You, my friend, created a cult in your mind and then you joined it. > > LOL. Actually, I saw it for what it was and left. Never looked back or ever > thought of returning! > > > > > Do you not take ANY responsibility for your own actions? Or is it all the > > fault of Daddy? > > Screw you asshole. >
...and yet you're the one who has spent, literally, thousands of hours on a forum devoted to the discussion of TM.
