Edg, esoteric New Age woo-woo played a critical role in Dan's reason for committing suicide. In that light, I think it's understandable that those ideas receive their share of criticism for their role in this tragedy.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > Vaj, > > You could not have read my conversation with Dan and come to the conclusions > below. In no way, at no time, did I validate his assertions of > enlightenment, in no way am I hoping for some miracle TM story to validate my > decades of involvement, and in no way have I tried to suggest that Dan's > suicide didn't have tremendously negative impacts on dozens of lives. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > For you folks who think that Dan's suicide was crazy nuts and are > > > rather high strung about how New Agers are waxing on about Dan, I'm > > > asking if you see that that's a religious position. Meaning that > > > you're displaying values which, like religious values, are matters > > > of faith much more than fact. > > > > Actually from a practical perspective, human life is precious, > > therefore it's not something to be wasted. You're also interrelated > > to other beings who, even if they don't depend on you financially, > > depend upon you emotionally at some heart level. > > > > > > > > I have, say, three, four, five and who knows how many more theories > > > about what happens after death, and given your alarm about Dan, the > > > atmosphere for discussion here is seriously dampened. Edification > > > here? Sure.... > > > > > > Why would anyone try to get closure here with some sort of framing > > > about Dan that they can abide with? No matter the theory, someone > > > here is sure to stompsmashshit on it. This is not a healing place > > > now is it? > > > > Suicide is generally not a healing act. The exception of course being > > people in terrible pain and/or a terminal illness. I do not believe > > either of these apply to Daniel. > > > > > > > That's the bane of FFL -- you have to be a fool to post anything > > > that your heart is (perhaps temporarily yes) resonating with. > > > > Or maybe you're just having a having a hard time after being sucked > > in by another TM Org poseur? After all, people like Dan would find > > their perfect target in old believers who are still clinging on to > > some desperate hope that some TMer out there really did benefit. TM > > works! I was enlightened just like Marshy said, with a couple > > flourishes thrown in from some old Ramana I read! > > > > Then when the rug is pulled out from that idea--unless you > > rationalize suicide somehow as a selfless or beneficial act--you're > > left to either accept the grim reality of unenligthenment, or try to > > rationalize it. > > >