Really "Edg (sic.)", you crack me up, man. I'll answer you "questions" below.
--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> From: Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why does SSRS think he can get away with marauding a
> congregation?
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 7:32 PM
> Why would anyone give this guy a free
> pass after he mimics Maharishi down to his giggle and then
> comes to the one town where that Maharishi's followers are
> and sets up business there to ride the coattails and grab
> some bucks?
You got me. Lots of assumptions there that have more to do with you than SSRS.
Honestly, I don't know. You'll have to ask him. But you don't really want
answers though, these are just complaints. You probably have only seen tapes of
SSRS. Really, he's not like Maharishi at all. I used to think that he was too
when I first saw a tape of him. I actually was a little pissed-off too. But
then I met him personally and over the years I've had quite a bit of
interaction with him. In fact, I saw him about two weeks ago. I assure you, not
like MMY at all outside of a white dhoti, long hair, beard and an Indian
accent.
>
> Why would any "previously true believing in TMer" deign to
> put up with this wannabe?
Well, maybe the "true believer" is still a true believer and doesn't perceive
him to be a wannabe. I don't agree with your assumptions, obviously.
>
> Why would this TMO DESERTER think he could wedge himself
> into this community and not come off as a conniving
> spiritual thief?
The hell if I know! Why do you see him as "wedging himself" into the
Fairfield/TM community? I think he came to Fairfield once a number of years
ago, but he was uncomfortable with being perceived as the very same thing you
are accusing him of.
>
> Why would anyone in FF after decades of "no results" jump
> ship to another ship made by a cowardly disciple of the
> builder of a just-abandoned ship?
Are you talking about me or just generic others? I got plenty of results
through TM and the TM-siddhis program. Those results were pure grace and freed
me from any conceptual bondage to any organization or guru. I'm in bondage to
the lotus eyed lord only in all his infinite forms!!!!
>
> How stupid does a person have to be to think, "Oh, here's a
> personal guru sure to love me forever and always tell the
> truth and never be smug or snobby or elitist or "too busy
> like Maharishi?"
You're right, you'd have to be very stupid, spiritually immature, lacking life
discernment or naive to assume a relationship with a Sat guru is all a cake
walk.
> Sounds someone was on the rebound.
Oh, you are talking about me! Yes, in 1986 I was on the rebound because my poor
"I" was utterly missing. I had to read a lot of Buddhist literature
to figure out what was going on. Maharishi's concepts were a good basic context
to place a label on what was occurring and to understand certain dynamics, but
I needed more detail. Life was not bliss, but a flat 2 dimensional skein over
pure consciousness. Very odd indeed.
>
> There's your questions, Pete. Let's see you and your
> mostly worthless PhD talk yourself out of this corner you've
> painted yourself into.
First, I don't have a Ph.D., it's a Psy.D.. Now this corner you refer to seems
to be a construct of your mind, not mine. I don't see a corner. What is the
corner you see?
>
> Tell us why you jumped ship? Bet you can't without
> lying or spinning the truth or saying something like "Edg is
> too angry right now for me to share this kind of intimacy."
You want to share intimacies? I'll have to run that by my wife! I never jumped
ship. I love Maharishi dearly, although I'm a little baffled by the recent Judy
revelations. In fact I was just talking to Maharishi the other night after I
read Judith's book. We had a delightful conversation. He is a little chagrined
by his past behavior and actually needs our deeper understanding of him and our
forgiveness. It's hard to convey the conversation in detail because it was
quite subtle and quite intimate. Maharishi is an amazing being/soul, whatever
you want to call him. Go ahead, talk to him. He's right there.
> And you can't even spell my name correctly. How'd you
> get a PhD with that inability to pick up on a common detail
> that everyone attends?
Honestly, I misspelled it. I pronounce it as "Edge" so that's how I spelled it.
That's not a real name, is it?
> Some psychologist you are to
> lose your cool and label me as always pissed off and come
> down to my level by a juvenile sniping at my name's spelling
> -- if I can put a burr under your saddle so easily, I wonder
> how long you can keep a client from seeing your attachments
> disabling your therapeutic usefulness.
You should have seen what I initially wrote to you! I was swearing and calling
you every name in the book. I am a tad pitta. But I erased it all and gave a
more civil response as I'm giving you now. Isn't it grand of me? ;-)
>
> I'm not always pissed off -- as my posts herein prove --
> and even when I'm turning out another screed, I do so as a
> writer trying his best to create with aplomb and really put
> some neat flourishes onto my insults.
Your flourishes ain't that neat IMHO.
> Didn't your
> psychological training give you the insight to see the
> difference? I'm doing stand-up, performance art here,
> but if you learned anything in college it should have been
> that "being pissed off" is the death of a truly soaring
> creativity.
Performance art? Naw, you just seem to be an angry guy frequently. I disagree
about anger. Wonderful creativity, especially comedy, arises from anger.
> Best a pissed off person can do is iterate
> a one note song again and again as it attaches to
> issues. Maybe just maybe Michelangelo was pissed when
> he yelled at Moses, "Why don't you speak!" -- but that would
> be about as rare and artistic moment as what ever wuz.
> I amplify my nuances into nose-dives with nine-yards
> aspewin' for the sheer impact of doing so, and once in
> print, I'm done and on to the next moment of my life....I
> un-invest myself of the nuance thereby, see?
Sounds more like a rationalization to me!
> I specialize in being angry in print, but I've not thrown a
> punch in 55 years, never been fired for insulting fellow
> employees, have never taken anyone to small claims court,
> and was in the dome for five years morning and evening
> sessions and if that didn't quell my cantankerousness, then
> why would you glom onto a wannabe technique of the same ilk
> if it has had so little effect -- after 29 years of almost
> perfect dedication to it -- on my personality?
You got me! Although I'm your big brother because I'm 56, have been doing TM
for 38 years. So, you'll have to defer to me. Are you a Governor? If not, I
won't speak to you!
>
> Face it: you found yourself spiritually adrift from
> the TMO and you panic-grabbed on to some barnacle encrusted
> flotsam thinking it was dry land.
If that's your narrative you've cast me in, go for it!
> How's that working for ya if you're here in a pissing
> contest with the likes of me?
You're in a pissing contest with me? Why?
> I'm laughing here -- don't mistake a rude crude gnarly
> guffaw for a growl.
>
> Edg
Yes, Edg, outstanding in your own field!
