Yes very much like Suzanne Seagal. It's there in Maharshi's discourse, but it is more overt Buddhist literature.
Peter On Aug 8, 2010, at 10:58 PM, "emptybill" <emptyb...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > "Oh, you are talking about me! Yes, in 1986 I was on the rebound because my > poor "I" was utterly missing." > > Thus spake Suzanne Segal. > > "I had to read a lot of Buddhist literature to figure out what was going on." > > A free soul, I ejaculated!" > > Thus spake Yogananda. > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutp...@...> wrote: > > > > Really "Edg (sic.)", you crack me up, man. I'll answer you "questions" > > below. > > > > --- On Sun, 8/8/10, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > > > From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why does SSRS think he can get away with > > > marauding a congregation? > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 7:32 PM > > > Why would anyone give this guy a free > > > pass after he mimics Maharishi down to his giggle and then > > > comes to the one town where that Maharishi's followers are > > > and sets up business there to ride the coattails and grab > > > some bucks? > > > > You got me. Lots of assumptions there that have more to do with you than > > SSRS. Honestly, I don't know. You'll have to ask him. But you don't really > > want answers though, these are just complaints. You probably have only seen > > tapes of SSRS. Really, he's not like Maharishi at all. I used to think that > > he was too when I first saw a tape of him. I actually was a little > > pissed-off too. But then I met him personally and over the years I've had > > quite a bit of interaction with him. In fact, I saw him about two weeks > > ago. I assure you, not like MMY at all outside of a white dhoti, long hair, > > beard and an Indian accent. > > > > > > > > Why would any "previously true believing in TMer" deign to > > > put up with this wannabe? > > > > Well, maybe the "true believer" is still a true believer and doesn't > > perceive him to be a wannabe. I don't agree with your assumptions, > > obviously. > > > > > > > > Why would this TMO DESERTER think he could wedge himself > > > into this community and not come off as a conniving > > > spiritual thief? > > > > The hell if I know! Why do you see him as "wedging himself" into the > > Fairfield/TM community? I think he came to Fairfield once a number of years > > ago, but he was uncomfortable with being perceived as the very same thing > > you are accusing him of. > > > > > > > > Why would anyone in FF after decades of "no results" jump > > > ship to another ship made by a cowardly disciple of the > > > builder of a just-abandoned ship? > > > > Are you talking about me or just generic others? I got plenty of results > > through TM and the TM-siddhis program. Those results were pure grace and > > freed me from any conceptual bondage to any organization or guru. I'm in > > bondage to the lotus eyed lord only in all his infinite forms!!!! > > > > > > > > > > How stupid does a person have to be to think, "Oh, here's a > > > personal guru sure to love me forever and always tell the > > > truth and never be smug or snobby or elitist or "too busy > > > like Maharishi?" > > > > You're right, you'd have to be very stupid, spiritually immature, lacking > > life discernment or naive to assume a relationship with a Sat guru is all a > > cake walk. > > > > > Sounds someone was on the rebound. > > > > Oh, you are talking about me! Yes, in 1986 I was on the rebound because my > > poor "I" was utterly missing. I had to read a lot of Buddhist literature > > to figure out what was going on. Maharishi's concepts were a good basic > > context to place a label on what was occurring and to understand certain > > dynamics, but I needed more detail. Life was not bliss, but a flat 2 > > dimensional skein over pure consciousness. Very odd indeed. > > > > > > There's your questions, Pete. Let's see you and your > > > mostly worthless PhD talk yourself out of this corner you've > > > painted yourself into. > > > > First, I don't have a Ph.D., it's a Psy.D.. Now this corner you refer to > > seems to be a construct of your mind, not mine. I don't see a corner. What > > is the corner you see? > > > > > > > > > > Tell us why you jumped ship? Bet you can't without > > > lying or spinning the truth or saying something like "Edg is > > > too angry right now for me to share this kind of intimacy." > > > > You want to share intimacies? I'll have to run that by my wife! I never > > jumped ship. I love Maharishi dearly, although I'm a little baffled by the > > recent Judy revelations. In fact I was just talking to Maharishi the other > > night after I read Judith's book. We had a delightful conversation. He is a > > little chagrined by his past behavior and actually needs our deeper > > understanding of him and our forgiveness. It's hard to convey the > > conversation in detail because it was quite subtle and quite intimate. > > Maharishi is an amazing being/soul, whatever you want to call him. Go > > ahead, talk to him. He's right there. > > > > > > > And you can't even spell my name correctly. How'd you > > > get a PhD with that inability to pick up on a common detail > > > that everyone attends? > > > > Honestly, I misspelled it. I pronounce it as "Edge" so that's how I spelled > > it. That's not a real name, is it? > > > > > > > Some psychologist you are to > > > lose your cool and label me as always pissed off and come > > > down to my level by a juvenile sniping at my name's spelling > > > -- if I can put a burr under your saddle so easily, I wonder > > > how long you can keep a client from seeing your attachments > > > disabling your therapeutic usefulness. > > > > You should have seen what I initially wrote to you! I was swearing and > > calling you every name in the book. I am a tad pitta. But I erased it all > > and gave a more civil response as I'm giving you now. Isn't it grand of me? > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > > I'm not always pissed off -- as my posts herein prove -- > > > and even when I'm turning out another screed, I do so as a > > > writer trying his best to create with aplomb and really put > > > some neat flourishes onto my insults. > > > > Your flourishes ain't that neat IMHO. > > > > > > > Didn't your > > > psychological training give you the insight to see the > > > difference? I'm doing stand-up, performance art here, > > > but if you learned anything in college it should have been > > > that "being pissed off" is the death of a truly soaring > > > creativity. > > > > Performance art? Naw, you just seem to be an angry guy frequently. I > > disagree about anger. Wonderful creativity, especially comedy, arises from > > anger. > > > > > > > Best a pissed off person can do is iterate > > > a one note song again and again as it attaches to > > > issues. Maybe just maybe Michelangelo was pissed when > > > he yelled at Moses, "Why don't you speak!" -- but that would > > > be about as rare and artistic moment as what ever wuz. > > > I amplify my nuances into nose-dives with nine-yards > > > aspewin' for the sheer impact of doing so, and once in > > > print, I'm done and on to the next moment of my life....I > > > un-invest myself of the nuance thereby, see? > > > > Sounds more like a rationalization to me! > > > > > > > I specialize in being angry in print, but I've not thrown a > > > punch in 55 years, never been fired for insulting fellow > > > employees, have never taken anyone to small claims court, > > > and was in the dome for five years morning and evening > > > sessions and if that didn't quell my cantankerousness, then > > > why would you glom onto a wannabe technique of the same ilk > > > if it has had so little effect -- after 29 years of almost > > > perfect dedication to it -- on my personality? > > > > You got me! Although I'm your big brother because I'm 56, have been doing > > TM for 38 years. So, you'll have to defer to me. Are you a Governor? If > > not, I won't speak to you! > > > > > > > > Face it: you found yourself spiritually adrift from > > > the TMO and you panic-grabbed on to some barnacle encrusted > > > flotsam thinking it was dry land. > > > > If that's your narrative you've cast me in, go for it! > > > > > How's that working for ya if you're here in a pissing > > > contest with the likes of me? > > > > You're in a pissing contest with me? Why? > > > > > I'm laughing here -- don't mistake a rude crude gnarly > > > guffaw for a growl. > > > > > > Edg > > > > Yes, Edg, outstanding in your own field! > > > > > >
