--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:
>
> > >snip<
> > > Spiritual Defense can also be defined as the application of non-lethal,
> non-invasive, and non-physical Distance Influence (DI) – thought technology,
> which can provide real protection and shielding by screening and blocking
> harmful influences of a destructive or evil nature. Spiritual Defense employs
> DI technology, which is thought form communication between a sender(s) and a
> receiver (s), whether consciously perceived or not, involving for example 
> light
> and sound, prayer and meditation, and collective mental synchronization to
> augment and help insure security and well-being."
> > >
> >
> > Oh, like a darshan meeting with the saints. Light and sound, prayer and
> meditation...
> >
> 
> Incidentally, a darshan modality that Mother Ann (of the Shakers) as saint 
> used with pilgrims coming to visit was her voice also.  The sound value of an 
> intoning voice.  There are people around now who do this too. 
> 
> Using voice to help the spiritual subtle neuro-physio system.
> Mother Ann was also known in her time for the effect of singing her 
> 'word-less' tunes at people.   Shaker singing and the body of shaker songs 
> being sung the way we know it now came along after the Mother Ann 
> foundational era.  
> 
> The Boston Camerata as a project has produced a couple of CD's of Shaker 
> songs.  They are quite nice recordings.  Within the tracks are examples of a 
> couple of these word-less tunes.  Here is one of the CD's.  None of the 
> wordless songs are available to sample.  But here is a real nice album cd 
> recording of shaker songs including some of the 'wordless' songs: 
> 
>    http://www.bostoncamerata.com/bccd-simple.html
>

Opps. Track 17 is one of those songs. 'Holy Order Song'   The album has some 
others too for example.
-Buck

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > Yes that's the book.  It's a particular book that examines things 
> > > > > > > the way we would spiritually.  As an academic book it is kind of 
> > > > > > > unique this way.  It really is quite fabulous.  I found it on my 
> > > > > > > visit last month to the Shaker museum village of Pleasant Hill, 
> > > > > > > Ky.   Pleasant Hill Shaker Village is a great resource of books, 
> > > > > > > diaries, journals for researching transcendentalist utopian 
> > > > > > > America. http://www.shakervillageky.org/  I have also visited a 
> > > > > > > number of other of these kinds of museums looking at other 
> > > > > > > American Utopian groups like ours here in Fairfield to see how it 
> > > > > > > went for them.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > A couple years before Maharishi died I went down to Pleasant Hill 
> > > > > > > and lived for a while to particularly research the transition 
> > > > > > > between spiritual founders and following generations.  I spent a 
> > > > > > > lot of time looking at their founder Mother Ann in particular and 
> > > > > > > then the Shakti of the group following after her.  Mother Ann 
> > > > > > > evidently was a saint in the way we know them.  Would give 
> > > > > > > shaktipat, taught a meditation (dhyana) as a spiritual practice 
> > > > > > > and sat with folks giving a darshan.  They formed in to 
> > > > > > > groups(villages) to facilitate this spiritual practice and became 
> > > > > > > known as Shakers.  We popularly know them for other things but 
> > > > > > > essentially they were a mediating group in practice.  After some 
> > > > > > > generations of succession in busy competition with the outside 
> > > > > > > world to hold their own they lost their moorings, dropped their 
> > > > > > > structured meditation time from their daily practice, became more 
> > > > > > > about doctrine, and the group shakti dwindled out.  Spiritual 
> > > > > > > life-cycle. 
> > > > > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Viewing these in 'shaktic' or experiential spiritual ways as opposed to 
> > > 'static' comparative doctrinal ways, 
> > > as a group the Shaker experience stands a good parallel to things TM.  I 
> > > would wonder that some things possibly could even be learned from their 
> > > experience if one has eyes to see it.  Learned about the Shaker 
> > > experience as well as with TM-Raja-ism.  
> > > 
> > > For instance, the Shaker version of policy guidelines were called the 
> > > Millennial law.   There was a sequence to the evolution of their 
> > > millennial laws over the decades after their foundation era.  From short 
> > > organizational mission of facilitating spiritual experience initially 
> > > then towards detail specific as the group got further away from the 
> > > founder and the foundation era.   Moving from simpler facilitating of 
> > > shakti to long elaboration of doctrine and guideline.  From shorter 
> > > statement of spiritual mission to a long detailed 'contract' of doctrinal 
> > > guidelines.  From facilitating experience to preservation of institution 
> > > by guideline doctrine.  Essentially the guidelines became the teaching 
> > > doctrine.   In effect their ME became so burdened with 'pitta-vatta' 
> > > derangement of some that the experiential shakti got squeezed out of it 
> > > generally; folks dried up and left the group leaving behind only 
> > > doctrinal tru-believers  as preservationists.  It's a good lesson.
> > > Evidently the Shakers are not the only group to have this happen to.
> > > -Buck      
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This excerpt reminds me of when Maharishi was experimenting with 
> > > > Patanjali in the 1970's and teaching us the Yoga Sutras 'siddhis' 
> > > > practices with TM:  
> > > > 
> > > > "...For many Shakers were experiencing quite unexpected "movements of 
> > > > the inner Spirit" often overflowing into emotion-charged manifestations 
> > > > -songs without words, strange languages, prayer through bodily gesture 
> > > > such as kneeling, ecstatic spontaneous dancing, and disturbing bodily 
> > > > agitation and trembling.  It is from this last that their mocking 
> > > > neighbors called them "Shaking Quakers".  Many other Shakers remained 
> > > > outwardly calm in manner yet welcomed all these manifestations as the 
> > > > signs of a great inward work." [Of the later 18th Century]
> > > > 
> > > > Alot like scenes on the TM experimental (AEGTC) 'Governor training' 
> > > > courses around 1976-'77 in Switzerland as we learned the siddhis 
> > > > practice.  Ru's in spontaneous shaking and some ecstatic barking. 
> > > > Shakti shouts. Kundalini movement. Meditating.  A spiritual zoo.
> > > > -Buck in FF
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Here is something written about this kind of thing in the
> > > > > > > > > > 18th Century.  Nothing new under the sun I guess:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This is pretty impressive. Where exactly does it come
> > > > > > > > > from? Who were these people? What subsequently happened
> > > > > > > > > to this woman and her group?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Just to exercise my higher visionary functions: Ann Lee? 
> > > > > > > > Shakers?
> > > > > > > > http://books.google.de/books?id=8NFFknegLWUC&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=Ann+was+the+first+individual+to+experience+the+parousia&source=bl&ots=Ga5vONZcqM&sig=C8Y8puz_Rge_qJltRftFD_6KePw&hl=en&ei=GGRSTbHmKIHtsgat3omRCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Ann%20was%20the%20first%20individual%20to%20experience%20the%20parousia&f=false
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes that's the book.  It's a particular book that examines things 
> > > > > > > the way we would spiritually.  As an academic book it is kind of 
> > > > > > > unique this way.  It really is quite fabulous.  I found it on my 
> > > > > > > visit last month to the Shaker museum village of Pleasant Hill, 
> > > > > > > Ky.   Pleasant Hill Shaker Village is a great resource of books, 
> > > > > > > diaries, journals for researching transcendentalist utopian 
> > > > > > > America. http://www.shakervillageky.org/  I have also visited a 
> > > > > > > number of other of these kinds of museums looking at other 
> > > > > > > American Utopian groups like ours here in Fairfield to see how it 
> > > > > > > went for them.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > A couple years before Maharishi died I went down to Pleasant Hill 
> > > > > > > and lived for a while to particularly research the transition 
> > > > > > > between spiritual founders and following generations.  I spent a 
> > > > > > > lot of time looking at their founder Mother Ann in particular and 
> > > > > > > then the Shakti of the group following after her.  Mother Ann 
> > > > > > > evidently was a saint in the way we know them.  Would give 
> > > > > > > shaktipat, taught a meditation (dhyana) as a spiritual practice 
> > > > > > > and sat with folks giving a darshan.  They formed in to 
> > > > > > > groups(villages) to facilitate this spiritual practice and became 
> > > > > > > known as Shakers.  We popularly know them for other things but 
> > > > > > > essentially they were a mediating group in practice.  After some 
> > > > > > > generations of succession in busy competition with the outside 
> > > > > > > world to hold their own they lost their moorings, dropped their 
> > > > > > > structured meditation time from their daily practice, became more 
> > > > > > > about doctrine, and the group shakti dwindled out.  Spiritual 
> > > > > > > life-cycle. 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Retirement"  was the Shaker word they used for 'meditation' like 
> > > > > > we would know it. Regular 'retiring' was specifically allowed for 
> > > > > > or structured in to their work days.  'Retirement' was foundational 
> > > > > > to their spiritual practice.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That nice furniture we think of as being trademark of 'Shaker' came 
> > > > > > about to furnish their bedrooms, meetings, and villages for 
> > > > > > "retirement".  Their coming together in to villages was to 
> > > > > > provide/facilitate the common resources and time to have regular 
> > > > > > "retirement" and group meetings.  Their daily group meditations, as 
> > > > > > we might see them, they referred to as "Union Meetings".  
> > > > > > 'Retirement' was the essential salt and flour of their spiritual 
> > > > > > practice, just like ours.
> > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > >
> > 
> > 1845 Millenial Laws:  Section II Orders concerning the Spiritual Worship of 
> > God, etc
> > 
> > "Believers are required by the orders of God, to retire to their rooms in 
> > silence, for the space of half an hour, and labor for a sense of the 
> > gospel, before attending meeting.
> > 2. All should sit erect in straight ranks in retiring time, ... ; and none 
> > should have any conversation upon anything whatever, neither should they 
> > sleep nor idly lounge away the time, or leave the room except it be very 
> > necessary."
> > 
> > 
> > Half an hour.  These half hour retirements as spiritual practice catch my 
> > eye.  That is serious spiritual practice.  Infurther reading, the 
> > 'retirings' were very much part of the day from early on as a discipline.  
> > With extra ones thrown in or called for too at different times before 
> > meetings.
> > 
> > Retirement was particularly practiced for years of a generation or two.  
> > Evidently that discipline of practice petered out at some time.
> > -Buck in FF  
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ",,,attend to your retirements, meetings and meals, and not let 
> > > > > trifles hinder you; and when the signal is given, either for retiring 
> > > > > time or for meals, drop your work, go into the house and sit down and 
> > > > > retire, and have no loud or unnecessary conversation." [1845]
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sounds a lot like TM in Fairfield in earlier days through the 1980's 
> > > > > and the mid-1990's.  People's lives and work was set up to attend the 
> > > > > meditations and folks could drop what they were doing to go as an 
> > > > > additional call was made.
> > > > >  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > TM is on track with this life-cycle arc of spiritual groups.  In 
> > > > > > > its time Fairfield will be a tourist destination like Amana or 
> > > > > > > Shakertown or Brook Farm..  Can hear the tour guides in about 90 
> > > > > > > years describing the meaning of the architecture, displaying 
> > > > > > > artifacts like bottles of labeled AyurVedic herbs, Maharishi 
> > > > > > > honey and other products produced and sold by the group for their 
> > > > > > > sustenance , Sidha dresses, the crowns they wore, the Heidelberg 
> > > > > > > press room, see gold embossed publications, view banners from the 
> > > > > > > group,  and then hear the interpretation describing what 'went' 
> > > > > > > on in Fairfield.  Then take the  tours of buildings given by 
> > > > > > > people dressed in meditator garb.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Of course the irony of antithesis like at Shakertown is that it 
> > > > > > > is some local Christain-believing guides having a job who would 
> > > > > > > be giving the tours.   In time.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -Buck              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > <edit>
> > > > > > > > > > "Ann was the first individual to experience the parousia 
> > > > > > > > > > and so they recognized her to be the unique person to 
> > > > > > > > > > inaugurate the awareness of the parousia.  It was not 
> > > > > > > > > > "seeing" in the external sense at all but rather a 
> > > > > > > > > > transforming consciousness of unitive presence.  The phrase 
> > > > > > > > > > "she saw in open vision" is often used, open vision is a 
> > > > > > > > > > knowing not by mind or a seeing not by the eyes but by a 
> > > > > > > > > > perception at depth from with in; if reflects the "knowing 
> > > > > > > > > > which is beyond knowledge".  The "vision" is "open" in the 
> > > > > > > > > > sense that one who now really sees has been opened within.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > In meeting as she began to speak of her experience, all 
> > > > > > > > > > those at the meeting began to experience themselves.  They 
> > > > > > > > > > did not merely accept Ann's word for what she had 
> > > > > > > > > > experienced.  Rather, as she spoke of her experience, those 
> > > > > > > > > > who listened experienced the same reality for themselves.  
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Ann inaugurated the consciousness of parousia as the first 
> > > > > > > > > > one among many to be drawn into the unifying experience of 
> > > > > > > > > > alive and fully present in-through-with us all.  She is the 
> > > > > > > > > > first to awaken in experience to what ultimately all 
> > > > > > > > > > experience.  In experiential history she ministers this 
> > > > > > > > > > experience to them by bearing witness to what had happened 
> > > > > > > > > > to her, thereby being the instrument of that same happening 
> > > > > > > > > > to them.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Ann ministered life to them by the living witness of her 
> > > > > > > > > > experience; they now experience for themselves and so in 
> > > > > > > > > > turn enter an ever-expanding ministry of living witness to 
> > > > > > > > > > others.  This begins the essential process of revelation 
> > > > > > > > > > spoken of as progressive unfoldment."
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes. This is the same thing that SSRS says when people 
> > > > > > > > > > > have transcendent experiences around him. He says that 
> > > > > > > > > > > that experience occurs in your consciousness and is you. 
> > > > > > > > > > > But this does not discount that the guru/teacher/lama, 
> > > > > > > > > > > etc., could function as a catalyst to trigger said 
> > > > > > > > > > > experience in you. Without the catalyst, no experience. 
> > > > > > > > > > > In the same fashion you could listen to a piece of music 
> > > > > > > > > > > and have a beautiful experience. The beauty is in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > context of your consciousness as the music serves as a 
> > > > > > > > > > > catalyst to trigger the experience of beauty. Without the 
> > > > > > > > > > > music "outside" of your consciousness, no "inner" beauty. 
> > > > > > > > > > >
>


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